Pharah is an extremely powerful hero if played well. A common thing to see with a Pharah, is a Mercy… On pc this problem won’t be to serious because it is a lot easier to aim on pc, but on console it’s a different story. The enemy Pharah (with a Mercy pocket) can hover wherever she would like and have 0 drop off. The first thought to stopping a Pharah are Soldier, Mcree and widow. With the increased difficulty of aim on console, when playing soldier if the enemy Pharah has half a brain she can easily kill you by going in and out of cover whenever she fires and you will have no chance of killing her. With Mcree even on PC there is his insane drop off damage. With widowmaker. There are some really good widow makers on console, but hardly any of them can focus on killing a pharahmercy and staying alive from people diving her on the ground. I am a master console player, no. I WAS a master console player, now I’m only mid diamond because of the increase of good Pharah players, because Pharah counters Brigitte. The hitscan on my team can’t kill her because it is so much more difficult on console. If anyone can explain this better at all please do, I feel like Pharah should either not have as much damage or should have less fuel (on console).
Try to counter Pharmercy with another Pharmercy.
Another way is to get a Bastion and enclose him with barriers.
EDIT: I don’t know about console, but at least on PC its the easiest to counter a Pharmercy with another Pharmercy.
What? One of the hardest targets to hit for a pharah is an airborn target. And a pharah is probably the best counter against a bastion being bunkered.
As a pharah main on pc, i have the most problems with good widows. Since they mostly are not with the main group they are harder to spot then a hanzo. Thinking you are save to move in to finish of the last few people only to get sniped.
But on console… i guess a moira can be a problem, with its auto aim and still long range. First focus mercy. Also diva of course.
Well it probably depends on your main like is it a hitscan or projectile tracking or flick but I have noticed that pharas sometimes fly on the same area when fighting so I just spam to that area and hope to God she dies
Moira should counter pharmercy on console very well, the aim assist with her attack and minimum lock on as well as her teleport should help you kill them before they kill you, try and get right under them, most phara’s never loor straight down.
but yea one thing, pharmercy combo is hell on PC too, because whilst its quicker for the DPS to aim with a mouse, we don’t have aim assist, but its also quicker for the phara to aim.
Pharah is not a good counter for that strategy. Bastion can get Pharah down way before Pharah can actually make damage. The best way to counter a barrier-enclosed Bastion is Roadhog and Mei: Mei walls the bastion out of the barriers, and Roadhog hooks him.
Nothing like the classic lift and pull method to leave the bastion in spawn
I agree i play pharah when i see bastion its easy to snipe him with pharah or shot behind from far away so the shield well be confused where to protect behind or infront
Normally, she would get destroyed by any hit-scan character, but that’s only if you use mouse and keyboard or are REALLY good with a controller.
For those who play hit-scan on console, taking out Pharah feels more like a chore than anything.
Lets take a look at something on our career profiles. If you check Weapon Accuracy and look at Pharah, she should be one of the highest amounts no matter how much time you played her for.
Now we take a look at her Weapon, her Rocket Launcher.
Your accuracy is only listed so high because you don’t have to get PRECISE hits with her. Since her weapon is explosive, its gonna have splash damage, which means you don’t have to aim AT your target, just somewhat right next to them.
Thus, it is EASY to land shots as Pharah, and rightfully gives her the 1-Star rating she deserves on her Hero Info.
Pharah is actually one of the worst characters on PC simply because it is easier to aim with a mouse and keyboard than with a controller. Maybe if hitting shots with her took a bit more effort to do, maybe dealing with Pharah, pocketed by Mercy or not, would be easier to handle.
We simply just have to adjust her splash damage, either by reducing the amount of splash damage or completely removing it. (Which i know isn’t going to happen.)
With Reduced Splash Damage, it will take a bit more skill to land good shots with her and make her easier to deal with, and maybe even raise her to 2 Stars on her Hero Info.
Most DPS heroes already take little effort at this point, such as Hanzo, Torb, Reaper (Somewhat), and Mei, thanks to her buff.
It would be great if Pharah took a bit more skill, and this would be a perfect change, forcing Pharah mains to improve their aim, and make that statistic on everyone’s profiles more accurate.
However, PC shouldn’t recieve this change, i know how hard it is to play Pharah on PC, i know she has a low Pick-Rate on there, but the Pick-Rate on console only ever goes up when a person in elo hell says “hey, we are losing, lets play Phar-Mercy and win.” Since Phar-Mercy doesn’t have an exact nerf, i figured that nerfing a involved character that has been untouched for a while may fix the issue.
I played console for a long time and I never understood the issue. You literally have aim-assist at your disposal, and you can tune it to your liking.
The difference between a direct hit and splash damage is huge, though. Not to mention she’s not getting “destroyed by any hitscan” on PC, you still have to hit her, which is far from automatic.
Hello, (I play on PS4)
I have spent a lot of time on Pharah and she is my go to hero usually.
I have to be honest, from my point of view she needs a slight buff lol. In this current meta I am being shot down the second my feet leave the ground. I dont have a Mercy to baby sit me, so may be it would be different otherwise.
If I ever have a Pharah problem I will go Soilder or D.va and take her down.
It’s interesting to see it from your perspective though. I think a few season back I would of agreed with you.
Yes yes, i know team 4 doesn’t care about console but I still feel the need to point out this problem with pharah
Pharah makes the game incredibly un-fun to play, because she forces players to play a specific role hitscan, and this may not be as big an issue for pc, but for console hitscan is hard and if you’re no good at it then it’s no fun
On one side of the coin if you’re trying to counter pharah as McCree, Soldier, or Widowmaker and you’re not that good at hitscan then you will have your entire team bashing you to “take care of the pharah” and toxicity develops
and if you need to double down on pharah counters with double hitscan then you can be more easily countered by anti-hitscan heroes (D.va, Genji, Tracer, etc.)
The big problem here is how much Pharah forces your team to play against her and it makes the game frustrating when you can’t play a hero you like because of a Pharah, this is a less extreme similarity to the hero stacking issue back in season 1 (and 2 i think)
if a team goes all Winston for instance, then your team will have to go all reapers when maybe a good majority of your team doesn’t like playing reaper you have to if you want to win.
That’s similar to pharah if you want to win against her you HAVE to go hit-scan, even if you don’t want to, and this wouldn’t be that big of a deal if there wasn’t a Pharah in every. single. game.,But there is she just doesn’t have a diverse cast of counters
Another issue that really ruins gameplay experience is if a Pharah is hovering right over you, not only is it more difficult to aim but if you’re looking at Pharah you can’t be looking at the rest of the enemy team and if you’re looking at the rest of the enemy team then you can’t be looking at Pharah, and it’s more difficult to aim because once she passes over your maximum height threshold of where you can look then you have to do a complete 180 degree turn just to be able to hit her and if she moves back then you have to do another complete turn whilst she can hit you with all the splash damage rockets she needs to until you die.
Fix your game team 4, consider all parties when making a change
Who is 4?
Also Pharah has plenty of counters and yes can sometimes require a team effort to take her down, but so what, you often have to do the same thing with the likes of Brigitte, Roadhog, or Mei. By the way, McCree is getting a buff so he can damage from a further distance, potentially Symmetra may become a good counter to Pharah as well if you throw turrets behind her, rapidly shoot space balls, or even the new ult.
Nothing to fix.
I agree, she is too much of a situational character, also, if my post gets merged with yours, its because i addressed a way to nerf pharah on console so that she takes a bit more skill.
Dva can often counter Pharah on her own.
Mcre+Zen = bad pharmcy
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S76 + Mcre + Zen = normal pharmacy
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S76 + Mcre + Zen + Orisa + winston= pro pharmacy
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If Widow , well need to be very good with headshot
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Winston can damage enemy mercy or enemy zen.
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Pro pharmacy, with pro roadhog and a pro Trecer is a nightmare.