Hello, I’m russian so forgive me for my english pls.
I was playing ow since 2016. And I’m really curious about ow2.
So I saw the discussion about new features in ow2. And in my opinion, blizzard is thinking in the wrong direction about that how to resolve the problem with tanks. I’m here to say that - I’m not curious in Reinhardt, even if he will be fast as a lightning and strong as a titan. I think a lot of players are avoiding tank queue, because they really love to shoot. 90% tanks in ow are about the same - to fight in brawl, or to shoot in 2 meters. So I really love to play Ashe. And I’m absolutely, 100% not interested in any tank available rn in ow. Because I don’t want to play something, when all your job is to stay in the correct place, and sometimes to hit enemies with your skills. That’s not interesting at all. I really love to shoot, why don’t you want to give that possibility to me? Make me fill that I need to have aim to play, and I will go to tank queue without any another stuff, like bonuses.
I think Zarya is the tank that comes closest to dps. She melts 2 or 3 in a matter of seconds, when she has some charge. Even dps won’t keep up with her. She kills reaper faster than he can heal himself, probably the only tank who can do that.
I don’t think so. Certainly not all tanks lol, I don’t know where you got that from. Cause that includes Winston with his deadly tesla gun?
The damage reaper does and the healing he gets from it sustains him long enough.
I mean it’s not hard, just look at the numbers and figure out who stays alive longer. He got nerfed again after having the buff a while back but I’m sure it hasn’t changed that much.
As an example, Rein does 85 damage per second, it would take him 3 swings to kill Reaper.
Reaper does, ideally speaking, 220 damage per second but sure let’s assume reaper is distracted and misses a few bullets and only lands 180 damage, even though there’s nothing harder than missing shots on a tank up close. From that he heals a little over 50 hp per second.
Yeah 3 swings won’t make it. Rein does about 35 damage per second to reaper because of the healing. He will need 8 swings, which are pretty much 8 seconds.
Reaper needs 2 seconds to kill Rein.
The Tanks job is to create space, as long as that happens anything counts. This is also why Roadhog should not be a tank, because he’s terrible at making space, he’s a dps hero.
Hog is good for creating space if your team has little to no coordination.
If your team is using sensible comms and playing with some base coordination. Picking Hog is pretty unhelpful as you leave other tank in a sticky situation.
I think hitscan tank can be more about supporting or controlling. Just someone slow, with big hitbox, with really slow gun, and mb with a shield? Someone who’s like Orisa, but with a hitscan mechanic.
I just have a problem with tanks, i really don’t like the gameplay. You know, i can play support role, and actually i love to do that, cause i can play Ana. I just need something i like on tanks as well. And i think not just me. I think the Overwatch is a shooter for most of players.
Hog really is more like a peeler than a space-maker. And peeling in and of itself can make it easier to make space for the rest of the team. So he can make space, just not in as fast and efficient way as others, necessarily.
There are a few hitscan Tanks tho, Zarya, Ball and Dva. The next one will probably be a projectile one though, or pure melee like Rein … but then again we will have to wait for OW2 so who knows.
orisa really only shoots and she can shoot across the map because her projectiles don’t have fall off.
she is probably the least liked tank in the game to play.
it’s not as simple to say “this character shoots or are hitscan”
it’s more so if people can find playing tanks in general fun because of how they operate, tanks tend to play around your group and need to have that in mind a bit, dps dgaf and that’s why dps are played more because people don’t care about strangers.
people feel like playing tank is like acting like a baby sitter to others and that’s probably the biggest reason people don’t like playing tank.
however this notion is so backwards that they don’t realize that’s how dps also functions but it’s not being named as such because people think dps don’t work like that.
the only reason i don’t feel like tanking sometimes is because i generally prefer more edgy and brutal tanks, but gameplay wise tanks are fun,
i just cringe when i play winston and he says “sorry for dropping in” god damn it.
but really jumping on someone and going primal feels fantastic, one of the better ultimates in the game tbh.
I definitely agree. I had totally forgotten about her at the time of posting that! But still, I think her bubbles are a really important part of her kit (same applies to D.va and DM), so I still consider Roadhog and Wrecking Ball more DPS since they can’t provide much protection to their teammates (in terms of shields/barriers).