Please remove punishments for rendering device issues

Now getting messages saying that I will receive punishments for leaving games early. This should be disabled for people encountering this issue.

If your analytics are set up for issues like this, you will see that I have a 100% record of staying in every game since beta until I had this issue.

For testing purposes, never use qp/comp/arcade
Make a custom game to see if it works, so you don’t actually dc from games.
Once its stable, play again normally.

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I think you should look into this issue more. If this was to be the case, we would never be able to play anything but custom games.

A huge amount of players have tested based on what Blizz has recommended without any fixes, we can’t just be left out.

Hey, I think you are presuming a bit that people just all have no problem while playing Overwatch. I have been seeing my friends encounter errors daily and tried to contact both the laptop/PC brand and Blizzard to solve the problems because they hate being irresponsible and cause people to lose games. One of my friends even bought a new PC, I am not joking! But sadly, the problem is still happening.
I think it’s better to try to understand people’s unique situations before we just assume if we don’t experience any problems, other people would not either.

It still doesn’t make up for the fact that your disconnection ruined the game for 11 players.

Also, as a rather minor argument, it would be exploitable because you could crash the game via your rendering device. All you need to do is disconnect your graphics card, using a program.

I think the more exploitative thing to do is expect people to do everything in their control to fix the issue when it seems relatively evident its the game itself.

I get that certain things can be exploited, I get that it ruins the game which is why I specifically mentioned I have a 100% attendance other than this because I hate when people leave when they lose.

I have no control over this, I have done everything I can and dumping money on a game I can’t play through no fault of my own is ridiculous.

You know the risk and you still insist to jeopardize your team’s chance of success because of selfish reasons. Yeah, it’s not fair to get penalized for something you had no control over but it is also unfair that 11 players now have to play an unfair game.

Don’t take my word… take Blizzard’s word instead:

Why am I penalized when I have a technical issue?

Any time you leave a game, you affect the experience of everyone else in the match. Think back to the last even match you were in where someone quit partway through. How difficult it was to win fights 5v6? Even if you did win, didn’t you have to fight harder to do so? For every crash or DC that gives you a penalty, there are five other players on your team who just had their chances of winning a fair match reduced.

If we’re talking about Blizzard’s word we must take into account their mission statement.

I have no way of proving this to anyone here but I do always try to act in a way that takes as many people into consideration as possible, its how I manage my team at work.

That being said I honestly feel that I can’t accept responsibility for this despite having that feeling of guilt, like you rightly addressed.

The feeling scratches away at the mind, I’ve played Blizzard games for 17 years and I’ve never felt such a lack of support.

We do literally everything they suggest, even buying new computers/components at huge expense to ourselves to get the same issues. Its not something they advised, but when there’s no support and you’re desperately trying to play with friends you don;t often have many other options.

I had said to quit multiple times when friends keep asking me to come back. Whether they’re friends or not its unfair on them as much as its unfair on me.

The issues for the player breach their MS, the issues for the friends breach the MS.

Thank you for your reply.

I don’t have any problem with the game ever, so I haven’t ruined any game as far as I can remember:)

I appreciate you trying to help, but it’s quite harsh to say that my friends ruined the game for 11 players when they are actively trying to solve the problems. I think some sympathy would be appreciated rather than just saying “if you can’t solve the problem, it’s your own fault and you are being selfish”. And I am not sure why you don’t seem to think it’s also Blizzard’s responsibility to ensure a good user experience? So, by your logic, my friends should all just not play this game because they are “selfish” if the game crashed and other people lost for things that are at least partially out of their control? (BTW, I doubt Blizzard would like to lose gamers for such reasons).
To be honest, it really sounds quite extreme. With your logic, anyone who, for whatever reason, might cause other people inconvenience, though with their best intention, should just stay at home, otherwise they are being selfish? Wow, mind-blowing. Could you ever say for sure you have never caused anyone inconvenience? And what would you have yourself done in that circumstance? It’s so easy to ask other people to be perfect so that they don’t ruin your life, isn’t it?
Well, anyway, I do hope you have a good life and try to be less harsh to other people, or maybe to yourself as well, it would help you enjoy your life more:)

It is still your responsibility because you agreed on taking responsibility.

You agreed to behave accordingly, to play accordingly, and to take responsibility for your mistakes. Since you mentioned real life, do you expect to get away for k1lling a man due to a car accident because you car had technical issues?

The lack of support is because you don’t deserve support. You need to take responsibility for your mistakes.

Do you think I don’t know that? I have often connection issues, which is why I don’t touch competitive. I only get disconnected 3 times a month but that isn’t worth the risk. I know how annoying it is to have a leaver so I won’t do that to others.

Fix your issue before playing a game, otherwise, do whatever you want as long you take responsibility.

Sorry if it sounds harsh but there is no place for the appeal to emotions fallacy here. Sure, it feels unfair to be penalized for an issue you can’t solve but it is unfair that you risk a game because you want to.

I already mentioned above that I have connection issues. I don’t go boohoo when I get penalized for losing connection? No! I don’t play competitive in the first place. If you browse my post history, you would realize that I am rather strict in terms of CoC and whatnot. I’d be a hypocrite to complain that a penalty to me is unfair, even though it is clearly justified, wouldn’t it?

In a discussion, you can roll with emotions but once someone comes with facts and logic, you will be the one rolled over. So quit your ad hominems and don’t even try to mock my mindset by claiming another one would “help me enjoy my life more :)”. Take responsibility for your actions! Solve your problem first before you play a game.

blizz does not even compansate when people lose sr because of their mistakes and bugs of the game. Don’t expect anything…

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Random, you sometimes say a lot of random crappy things but this is true, lost 300+ sr counted* because of server error when my connection was fine.

I had the rendering device lost bug a few times too but it’s so random and sometimes weeks apart, I can’t do anything about it :man_shrugging:

I really would look into it and prevent it rather then expecting them to not punish you, rendering device lost issues if had them when my other ssd or hard drive would go into power saving mode even tho Overwatch is not installed on the drive that go’s into power saving mode yeah Overwatch will lose rendering device on even the smallest hitch devs should probably setup Overwatch to not timeout instantly, anyway try set energy options to performance and set hard drives timeout on 0 so it does’t go into power saving, this is better especially for mechanical drives since they will not be parked as much which is what damages the mechanical drives.

Windows 10 has’t really been optimized properly yet its probably all caused by that.

There ofc other factors of why you can lose rendering device if its just Overwatch tho and you never seen your gpu driver crash setting power plan to high and drive timeouts to 0 may just help, it sound silly but it helps.

Finding cause of a problem is usually all about back tracking events that just happened not fun task to do.