Pls any advice to get out of silver

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Hi I know most people will just say your just not good enough for higher ranks but I feel I am stuck in silver any advice?

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You have a good range of heroes, so use it to your advantage. If a hero is needed in a situation, pick that hero if you can play them.

If you have any specific match-ups or comps you want to know the counters to, feel free to ask.

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Just find a character that really fits you. If you are really wanting to get out of silver and to higher ranks like diamond then you need to play with someone so that your plans don’t just go over everyone’s heads. In silver no one has real skill when it comes to heroes, they just play with what they think theyre good at but they are not. Have one hero from each category tank, DPS and healer, choose ones that don’t have a huge difficultly in skill for you, so you can learn that character and good as you can then take it to comp, and then you’ll be able to carry your team since silver players choose whatever they want, so it just relies on you playing better

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Best tip you can give someone in diamond or below : Die less.

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Hello, tips people gave you here are some basic things. You are stuck because you are doing something wrong so you need to correct that. I am able to help you if you are interested. Best way would be to see your recorded game play.

We have our discord server so feel free to join.

discord.gg/vyMY5ZZ

We have good EU OW community and we have coaching section where me and others are trying to help people like you. We are doing it in our free time and for free.

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You rate ? I mean I understand silly wasteful deaths but in a lot of my games I find people are too afraid to make plays or go for the fight.

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You rate? You mean my SR? 3k8 last season.

I should have probably explained a bit more, when I mean die less I mean that you should always think about what’s happening around you and what you’re going to do about it, a lot of players in lower ranks just go head down into a fight and feed without a single thought put into the game.

So I guess my final advice is : Think before you act so you die less and get more value out of 1 life.

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Nice rank dude ! But no I wasn’t on about it. Fine balance I suppose don’t throw your life away but don’t be too scared to make plays.

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just keep playing and try your best. If you don’t belong to silver, you’ll climb out of it.

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Yes to both of these.
It’s good to think before you act, but don’t overthink it.
I see many tanks be too passive even at GM+ since they are just looking for what they believe is the perfect opportunity for them to engage.

Had a 4100 winston the other day sit around in choke for around 1½ minute without engaging. While he may have survived for this duration, he also provided no value for the team. Instead he was just feeding a bit of ult charge any time he peaked to look for his opportunity.
(Not saying this player is bad, he simply played the match as if we had more coordination that what was the case)

If you can’t find the perfect opportunity to engage with your whole team, you can simply look to make plays with one other person.
This person doesn’t even need to be aware of your plan to help him out.
2 people working together is always more effective than no team play at all.

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If in SOLO Q nothing can help you.
8 out of 10 games I am playing with total newbies without any knowedge and skill about the game. Already lost 300mmr cuz its not possible to carry my team alone. Further more there are much skilled enemies at the same mmr that i am matched against

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This is just demoralizing and not really helpful.

Low game knowledge is kinda as would be expected of silver?
I mean even low GM players have relative low game knowledge in a 4500’s eyes.
To be honest, the lower SR game, the easier it should be to hard carry.

Smurfs should be on your team just as often as the enemy. If these games turn out to be simply hard carried by them, you kinda got the proof of how it’s possible to carry the game.

But look at it like this, if you play 10 games, get a smurf on your team in 3 of them, a smurf on the enemy team in 3 of them, these games will even out in win/loss and leave you with 4 games you have more control over.
These 4 games are where you really have the potential to make your climb.
I’m aware that 4 of 10 games due to smurfs is kinda meh.
But i somehow doubt smurfs are as common as this example.
Also pretty much in any rank you will have about 1/3 of games be unwinnable, 1/3 be unlosable and the last 1/3 are the ones you control the outcome of.

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Solo q can work, I climbed from low gold to plat in a couple of days.

just have to stay calm and embrace the grind some games you win and some you just can’t. As long as you play your best and having fun it’s all good.

Be proud of any rank you are ! You have achieved something and improvement is always available the more you play !:slight_smile:

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Seems to me that you swap around heroes like crazy. That’s not necessarily a bad thing (I’m a Mystery Heroes main myself^^), but at some point you should pick a role to focus on. Having a relatively large amount of play time with so many characters should translate into good assessments of the playing field - knowing whom to target or whom to heal, being aware of ult timings, trying to be an ingame leader, etc. All that put together, you would do well with an off support that has a defensive ult (Zen, Lucio) or an aggressive off tank (D.Va, Hog, Hammond).
Stick to the role you choose and make sure you still maintain a bit of depth (don’t just go Whole Hog, spread out playing like 60%-20%-10% over the heroes in your role and 10% on filling if something else is needed for a change).

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In my eyes there is not much you can do aside from playing a lot and picking heroes you feel you are best at.

There is an eternal debate going on if there is something like ELO HELL or not. The counterargument seems to be that good players are able to climb from bronze to diamond in like a week. It has been done on streams multiple times.

The problem with this argument is that bad teams are carried by players highly superior in skill. Now lets assume that your skill ceiling is somewhere in platinum. Above that you would simply lack manual skill to sustain yourself. You land in silver at the start of your career and you probable expect to climb to platinum.

However since your supposed skill level is somewhere in platinum, you are not really that much better from a silver and perhaps even bronze player (aside from the mythical wood league which probably is way below 1000 ELO). So to put this into practical example, you are better from a true silver player to an extent that you would win 8 out of 10 1v1 duels with him. But in a 6v6 environment this skill difference is diminished to such at extent that all you do is perhaps boosting your team chance to win by like 5%. Now given the chaotic nature of solo queue matchmaking, you are literally stuck in silver (+/- 500 rating, depending from your winning/loosing streaks) unless you start to play in a team or get really really lucky with a long win streak (I had something like that once, won like 20 or 30 games in a row, I dont know, it just happened).

TLDR: If you are a solo player and you are not massively better from players on that level, you may as well treat it like you are in a bronze-platinum bracket.

PS. And to not sound completly discouraging and add some true advice. Revise your hero picks. Meta lists are kind of useless in silver where a lot of cheese easily counterable in higher ELO works well. Like for example Bastion + shield is still a bane in lower ELO, same as Pharmercy.

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Main 3 strong heroes (for example: zarya, lucio, dva) get good at them.
Die less.
Never play more than 10-15 comp games per day.
Stand and think for a while instead of auto piloting.

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Watching higher level players really help! I’d recommend Jayne as he’s very fun to listen to and knows the game really well. If you go for his YouTube channel, he’s coached a variety of ranks and you can get some help from him c:

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Generally watching and learning from other people, is one of the easiest ways to Aquire and improve new skills.
Jayne for example is good for learning general knowledge about the game. If you want to improve a specific hero, watching some of the top players on these heroes could show a greater result.

However simply watching better players wont make you better.
You would have to make an effort to identify and understand what they are doing. Like what techniques do they use, what positions do they take and why.
Once you have acquired new knowledge from them you will have to put time in game to practice using it yourself (This is very important to see improvement).
If you can’t make something work, you would want to try and identify why.
It could be game knowledge you aren’t aware of, lack of mechanical skills required, or that it’s actually not very optimal. If it’s the latter, you may want to drop it.

Learning from others like this is not only limited to watching higher ranked players. Sometimes even a GM can learn something from a plat.

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Use these characters:

Spamrat
Spamzo
Torb
Orisa
Bastion.

The first two require zero skill and the last three can be used as part of the cheese comp “strategy” (which takes no skill whatsoever).

If you can’t climb using these characters, then you should give up on Overwatch.

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Relying on cheese won’t help you improve. if you don’t improve, you won’t be able to keep the new rank if you switch to anything else.
In other words, if you want to climb reliably, you should do so by improving instead of just changing to something people don’t know how to counter at lower ranks.

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