Power gaming sucking the fun out of every game for a casual player

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there’s so many facets of a game that gets ignored and relegated as useless because it’s not meta, but what about fun? exploration? creativity? challenge? autonomy? taste and preference?

power gaming is a way to play games, but it’s not the only way.
and if you play casually, what’s the point if it ruins the fun for you, why do it?

i see this trend everywhere infecting every game, every “influencer” trying to shove meta tactics down your throat like it’s the only way you will be able to play and enjoy the game.

but for most players meta don’t even matter.

for example, what’s the point of knowing that for example cammy in SF5 is the meta best character in terms of winning if you can’t even utilize the character to that degree where it will actually impact your game making you win more games, and even if you did, was that the character you really liked playing?

or dark souls 3, sellswords are great but is that really the weapon you like using?

in summary, power gaming is an option, not a requirement.

how does this relate to overwatch? well there’s a lot of players trying to force other players to play meta in a sense trying to force others to power game when that is not the intention of every player in the game, and subsequently it really doesn’t apply to the vast majority of players because meta don’t matter because of the lack of skill to play meta.
making it a mute point to even try to force others to play something they don’t even want to play.

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100%

I think this anytime I hear/see someone crying for a swap to “counter” something.

There is no right or wrong way to play the game

Just have fun.

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Well heroes do counter other heroes. It’s all about working together as a team and having fun while doing so.

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And there is someone who’s been repeatedly banned for toxicity.

I suspect, as a Rein main, he’s probably crying at his DPS to counter everything (forgetting that tank swaps and better pathing are more effective anyways)

The exactly type of player that this game needs less of.

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@Renegade , Greetings ,game is fun no doubt in that 10/10,but in order to find waht is fun for you in the game,u have to find what is that pulling you to be game fun for you,I will tell you what is pulling me to be game fun for me,for me rank and score is disabled (in my brain idc do I win or lose,but ofc I always try my best no metter what ) that’s first step,second step is,to chek matchmaking and balance,matchmaking is 10/10 so is perfect as balance,so bassicly u play vs same level skill,killing opponents,trying to kill whole team alone with your ult,communicate with team no metter are they randoms or do you stack with friends,trying something new in the game,how to defend or attack,which champion is the best for defend for that map or best for attack.Beside all this things for me is fun when champions talk beetween each other and durinning the game match,is fun how precisely matchmaking is it and balance.Arcade games are funny,especially Copa Lucio Ball,About. Forcing other players to play,well,that happend to me,not often,my team nicly ask me to change if am not doing good as that champion,or if that champion is not good pick for that round,we all have our mains,and we all want to play only 1-2 champions and that’s all,and ofc when team ask me for a change I always do,because 50% win rate comes only from your personal attitude.Challange for me is every game,I enjoy in the game,trought game I show to the others I accept defeat as a win,game is not all about win and lose,game have alot to offer beside it I am personal Casual Player.I show often my behave in the game,meny people like it and sey something good in chat or voice about it and I like it that’s circle of positive energy.These things didnt fall from the sky,I work for it so hard,and am glad I succed in it.Game is 5x better,then it’s look,when u play for fun.About Creativity,we will have soon winter events,like every year,and it will be perfect this year am 100% sure in that.It was my pleasure to explain you these things,best of the luck in the future!

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yeah but it becomes a mute point when every character counters every other character because no one is playing that well that supposed counters matters.

and when people try to force you to play something or else they throw because that’s what they are assuming you are doing by not playing meta even though if you swap you will still be bad that it won’t actually matter and then they throw because you can’t play that character, so what’s the point?

if you don’t like playing that character but it’s the best character why play that character?
it’s not like you get something tangible for it, if you only do it to please others then is that your reason for playing a game? to please others?

and if you’re playing for yourself by yourself in a single player game, does it matter what’s the meta is? what is the strongest? because you are trying to entertain yourself right?
and if you just look on youtube what’s the strongest build you can make in that game aren’t you robbing yourself of that experience of trying to figure that out for yourself?

sure some games might be so difficult and a bit convoluted that you might be shooting yourself in the foot because you didn’t know, but is that the end of the world? it just means you learned something by yourself without someone needing to expressly tell you that.

it’s just an observation and i think it’s very sad how things have turned out when people are more worried about results than experiencing and finding enjoyment from playing the game.

i mean aren’t you really just backseat gaming yourself at that point?

it’s not that i’m dissatisfied, it’s more so a comment to the whole of gaming as a culture nowadays and i see people so worried about results and so manic about playing “correctly” that it sucks the fun out of everything for them.

not only that, they are affecting others in for example team games that most team games become “toxic” because of it because they aren’t having fun because they are too stressed out about playing correctly.

i’m sure you’re aware of this, ladder anxiety, the pressure to perform, this have spawned such a negative impact on everything related to peoples gaming life.

i think what’s needed is some self acceptance and acceptance towards others and some reflection on why people play games to begin with.

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We are all different,for some ppl nothing is metter only score and rank.In case you didn’t undrstend me,you can’t tryhard in the game for rank and score and meanwhile having fun,usually these things going tougheter sometimes,but in that point u set up in your head ‘‘a goal’’ , I must be ‘‘Platinum’’ and if u dont get it u become a toxic.Culture of the game and what’s going on rn leave it to expert,I belive we both are not.I am happy with the game,even more when Overwatch 2 is coming soon.No one force me to be ‘‘correct’’,I belive that one comes from the house (house and family stuffs irl life) .

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I mainly experience that in competitive. People just want to climb higher I guess, but I totally get what you mean.

Competitive causes anxiety, especially when someone is playing someones favourite hero they’re best at, thus having to use another hero they aren’t as good at. Which can cause some arguments in chat. I personally give someone the hero they feel comfortable with if they ask. I enjoy playing 3 of the tanks anyway.

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Given the track record. I highly doubt this is what he does. You don’t get a 30 day suspension being considerate of others…

I suspect you are one that moans about people not playing the counters you think work.

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i’m not worried about myself, i’m worried for the rest of the gaming community becoming a power gaming contest and that would have an adverse effect on gaming in general due to it.

i mean look at for example the stupid stuff they’ve put in games recently, collectibles.
who asked for that?

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That’s what they did on WoW a lot, Mage Tower new gear collectable, Pets and mounts…

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It will only become that if you let it.

Luckily most of the players of OW don’t actually care about such things.

Just play games and see how many times you see Mercy, Moira, Genji, Hog. At all levels.

Can add Rein to that too.

People picking these are not interested in power levels, meta, or even glancing over the patch notes.

But there is only a small percentage of try hards in each rank. And more power to them. If they find the best way to enjoy the game is to adapt to the meta, then cool beans.

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well wow have more apparent problems than just that.
but like every single player game have some form of collectible or collectibles, and really it’s only for completionism people who can’t bring themselves to put a game away until it’s “completed”