People whom are hiding their profiles are bad or cheating in general, that is just the way the cookie crumbles. The excuse that someone would be toxic and judgmental due to being incapable of analyzing your stats properly is just bogus. If anyone is ever unsure about how to read in to someones stats you can just look them up on overbuff, see if they have got a decent rank for your elo or not. Simple as that. No biggie. The ones not able to do this or in denial a summary of your overall data and performance carrying any weight are people who will be toxic regardless of any circumstances that does not fit their profile of what is right or wrong, in short people that are simply unseasonable regardless.
Furthermore there is literately no reason to have a private profile unless you are hiding something. It is basic human instinct for us to want to hide something we are a) either ashamed off, due to what it shows about us, represents whatever b) It is something that is gonna have major consequences if it was known by others, naturally in general we just seek to protect our self for different reasons. Sometimes thou, and likely the only way to actually improve at something is to see the truth, pro athlete for example did not get to were they are by hiding, not showing or analyzing their own data. Naturally they expose themselves as they compete ofc, but at the same time whatever stats they produce are for all to see.
You wrestle with these things on a daily basis there is no denying it, I mean there is a reason reality as we know it is very performance based. I mean look at a basic workplace for example, a serious office business gonna have regular check ups and performance reviews. If you could hide what you are doing, you would just say you are the absolute best and deserve a BIG raise compared to others no matter the situation. Now in reality you can not, coz most things in a big well running office are not hidden. And if you are slacking off and under performing soon or later you are gonna get the sack.
At the end of the day if you play x, y or z a lot if you are a really good dps player but do not play it as much, people will not mind much if ask to play and your stats are awesome and you do awesome in the game. And if the profiles needs a rework, than give them a rework, but the only reason for the private profiles is so people can be in a sense more toxic. To be perfectly fair, they were probably only introduced to due to torbjörn and symmetra one tricks getting lots of hate( for a lot of people one tricking in every situation is a very very very toxic behavior) . So i guess for a rework, show % or hours played on each roll and something like win to go along or some average stats so people can see what you usually perform with and what you prefer, that way people can not see individual heroes but at least understand the way you approach the game better.
First of how is it relevant in an competitive environment were we are discussing performance data related to that activity and secondly what is deemed as private “information” is actually something very limited in regardless to the things we lie about on a daily basis. If you failed a test there is no point in lying about it for example, it only carries at tons of drawbacks doing that way and it will only cause you further distress yet people do it.
Either way extremeley private stuff such as current health issues, grown up “fun stuff” etc. that you are seemingly referencing towards carries zero relevance even within the range of my argument here.
If I were to play the devil’s advocate here for a bit, I will say that since private profiles became a thing, playing different heroes has been met with much less toxicity (in my experience).
To clarify, in the past if I were to have played mostly Support with heroes X and Y everyone on my team would expect me to continue to do so throughout the season.
Sometimes this would carry over to the next season and the next…
If I didn’t pick my most played hero and role I was considered a “thrower” and, I assume, reported for Gameplay Sabotage on top of being constantly insulted and blamed for everything that may go wrong in the match.
Now there’s much less of that.
I’m sure people could still look all of this up but few seem to do so.
So to me, private profiles has improved my experience with the game.
That being said, I’m a very casual player on a casual rank.
Cause there is no obvious way of telling what you are performing on and how? It is quite self explanatory, if you had certain qualification all your life and than suddenly run off doing something else entirely without properly showing how you perform( overwatch has not proper stats screen remember) in your new roll and things go wrong obviously you will be blamed.
And again if you have less experience on something it is very likely you are not gonna perform to the standard of your superior most played heroes, maybe you belong in an other rank entirely in those positions. Competitive mode is supposed to be a competitive mode but treated as a casual mess. It is the constant issue and private profiles makes it even worse.
Even thou the game lacks live data if you are a sick DPS players and it shows in your stats, and you have 65%+ winrate insane stats, good overbuff rank, etc. I seriously doubt you will get bad mouthed for picking every once in a while. Like I said make the profiles easier to read, or introduce live game data if it is an issue. Most of the time people being toxic despite everything, like I said, are people that will be regardless and blame everyone else, regardless.
That is the very reason there is still plenty of the blame game going around, furthermore if people report you for gameplay sabotage incorrectly that is another thing on blizzards end to fix since they bade the abuse able system in the first place without ever caring about fixing its flaws.
Finally if you wanted to diversify the heroes you played you would probably do so much earlier than after a couple of seasons. The reason you probably did not is cause you saw your chances of winning going down significantly, not cause there was not plenty of opportunities for you to play MT/off-tank/support like there is every singel game, but cause you simply were not confident enough you would perform in a effective enough manor to affect the outcome of the game in those rolls.
This is a major issue with the design of this game. One I’ve been bothered by since release.
And what would an average Joe do who is steadily trying to climb in SR? And is acquiring the skills to do so as they go along?
They will not have “insane stats.”
Those are a lot of convenient assumptions.
I play different heroes because I need the variety to not get bored.
Like I said…
I of course would not pick a hero that is hard to play that I have zero experience with out of the blue in a competitive game.
I have more respect for my fellow OW-Players than that.
This would worsen the Gold Medal Mentality by a lot.
I should make this clear though, I am quite indifferent on this topic.
I’m just exploring the other side of your arguement.
And I don’t see how having open profiles made the game better.
What did you gain out of it other than looking at somebody’s stats and personally determine wether they’re good enough (in general) to play their hero?
Did it ever stop people from playing what they wanted?
TL;DR - What are the pros of having an open profile?
If you are good at what you play and deserve to move on your stats will be good for your elo. [quote=“VurrChachino-2989, post:8, topic:17863”] TL;DR - What are the pros of having an open profile?
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People get deterred from taking actions that in general harm the experience for 11 other individuals, plus reports in general become a tidy bit more fair as true throwers and de rankers can easily be exposed. Icing on the cake is people cheating regularly will be a lot easier to track as their stats become bloated.
But only if they can’t hide it you mean?
I can see that being a thing for sure.
Anonymity has always made it easier to show less empathy etc. To not really care about others.
Yes. They’ll be good enough.
Maybe I misunderstood your interpretation of “insane” stats.
It’s worth noting though that if you’re a new but talented player that is climbing through the lower ranks your stats will likely be MUCH better than that of a person of equal skill that has only played around their intended skill level recently.
That’s a rare occurence though and can likely be discarded.
Just saying, stats aren’t as black and white as they may seem.
For example, if you’re focusing on tanks you’ll likely have a lot higher accuracy, headshot percentage, damage done etc. compared to somebody who is trying to save their supports from the small and fast Tracer / Genji.
Winrate is hard to bloat though. Unless you’re very lucky with the matchmaking.
As far as catching cheaters go, I would recommend the replay system over any stat sheet.
But more data to go on is of course welcomed with open arms.
I could add that I wouldn’t mind letting people see my god awful tanking stats whenever they want me to fill that role and I try to explain to them how bad of an idea that’d be.
Haha!
I guess, in the end, any ranked gamemode should be designed and catered to those who, for a lack of better words, want to and tries to win the most and if open profiles are a part of that then I’m all for it.