Come again?
GROW UP EVERYONE! Games are meant to be taken seriously! NO fun allowed!!!
If you dont take video games serously, you are obviously a child!!!
Now, the problem with your way of thinking:
1.There is a place to play to win and tryhard (comp) and there is another place to do whatever you want that gives you joy (qp). Both needs (playing only to win, playing for fun) can be satisfied with this system. If you want to claim both comp and qp making them play to win then, “playing for fun needs” are not satisfied and the playing for fun people have nowhere to go.
2. Even if you think it is ok to report someone for “throwing” a qp game, you must understand that comp is meant to be taken seriously and comp reports must be prioritize.
You defined gaming with this sentence btw.
That could be anything, I could claim you detract my enjoyment because you didn’t nano me, and this is not even an exaggeration.
You are still making things up.
Get your facts straight, write a support ticket if you want and ask them if the report system does priotitize comp or QP and if the report is only meant to be used for comp.
SPOILER : The answer will be no. The report categories are valid for any mode.
QP is literally the exact same that comp mode with 3 exceptions :
- You dont lose or win SR
- You dont have to play 2 sides, you can play 1 and then leave
- If you leave, someone will fill your spot.
Thats it. Blizzard changed the “unique” hero per team exactly to make it closer to Competitive and make it more serious, thats the goal.
If you want to “have fun” and “goof around” theres Arcade and Custom games for that. They are literally created for that sole purpose.
Stop.Making.Definitions.Up
Keep your technocratism for legal issues, this is a video game thread were ppl post their ideas, I suggested giving priorities to comp reports liek all the other succesful games, I didn’t think they already do.
Exept these are whole different game modes, what happened you forgot about that?
No no no jack, this is the reason there are so many trolls in comp, people join comp with this mindset “it’s longer qp game with 2 rounds and points”. When the actual deviation that matters is “play to win, fun comes to you from winning” and “play for fun, by going for the win why not” do you agree or not?
You must think really largescale and not “I DID”.
I just explained, on another game, someone how droprates in MMOs work and same can be somewhat applied here.
There are millions of players and, as we all know, a lot of toxic ones too, that not only insult you into oblivion, but also report you for for everything you write because they know stuff is automated and here is where it comes to your problem.
If only you report someone and no one else it will get “ignored” in terms of, nothing happening. It is impossible for a company with millions of users to check every report manually and would take a lot of manpower. So those systems are mostly built up on full automization like “if user gets 50 reports in less than 10 hours he gets a level 1 ban, if he is clean” or semi-automated where mods get an information that player X got reported often and then they do a manual check on what happened.
If someone is really getting out of hand you might ask the other players nicely to report them too. I do this occassionally too and recieve mostly positive responds to my inquiry.
Also you have to accept that people are lazy. They rather just click on “block” on a player than opening the report window, selecting a reason, writing something into it and send it… it would take a minute or even more if you are detailed and you even risk to be kicked out of the game for being inactive. So they don’t report and just block and leave it be.
Have you forgotten that this is not your game? The game is what it is, so your “suggestions” are basically “i dont like this, do what i say” and thats not the way it works pal.
This is the way it works : YOU adapt to the game and not the other way around and what i said its literally on the game manual so yeah. Sorry to bust your bubble but your whole rant about reports in QP being “not legit” or whatever, is not only unfunded but a fantasy that only caters your opinion and is not going to happen because its based on a reality that you dont want to admit : Trolls and Throwers not only do exist in QP but they are WAY MORE prevalent there. Period.
What i said above are truths, facts, verifiable by game rules, its not up to debate.
I dont even know whats the distinction you want to make about playing to win or playing for fun “why not” ? What does that even mean?
Where you went wrong:
Most ppl will agree that the reporting system is not the best and it needs inprovements, without suggestions there is no improvement, no my ideas are not “I dont like this, do what I say” I never gave that impresion, whoever your
technocratic dictatorial way of thinking: “it is how it is agree with the system or get the out of here” doesn’t sound right to me… at least.
Let’s not continue this because we wont get anywhere when you don’t directly replying to what Im asking you. Maybe it would be a constructive conversation if it was vocal but not like this.
Yeah if you continue to tear apart full sentences and taking them out of context, of course you can make an apple look like an orange. If thats how it is, yeah sure. Stop replying to me. Period.
You made a question and im not a native english speaker so i actually have absolutely no idea of what that means or what is that question about. I still dont :
When the actual deviation that matters is “play to win, fun comes to you from winning” and “play for fun, by going for the win why not” do you agree or not?"
If you cant make that sentence crystal clear, i cant answer it. Simple as that.
My sentence about your suggestions is about you creating a baseline for your suggestions that come directly from facts and things that are not real and if those baselines are not real, any further suggestion is pointless. Thats my point.
The whole thread is about a dude sending gazillions of reports and then complaining they are ignored when … chances are, most of them are ignored because they are false. Then you literally compared those “most likely” false reports with people using the system in QP, like there wasnt any chance of a report in QP being legit and thats false.
Everyone saw that, anyone can scroll up and i am confident that 90% of the people here will agree with me. Regarding your question, rephrase or make it clear since i dont find any sense on it ( if you really want me to answer ofc ).
The ball is on your roof pal, your turn.
Conclusion:
I find it absolutely ridiculous to report someone in quick play for “throwing”.
You find it normal, and thats fine I can’t change your mind.
That blizzard dont ban you is insane, you have filed 1000 reports? You should be perma banned. If people where like you, everyone would be banned.
If you report the same person 10 times for abusive chat the system doesn’t consider all 10 reports from the same person. Otherwise the system would be exploitable and people would report other players multiple times just out of spite. I’m not sure if they only consider one of your reports or if they even consider a few, but definitely not more than that.
You’ll just have to keep on reporting and if they keep up their disruptive behavior and others report these players too then they’ll get suspended/silenced. If others don’t report these players then there will be o consequences unless they do something really bad. Blizzard understands that were all just normal people and that we get salty, get mad, throw games, bm each other and so on so they’re careful with punishing players which is very good.
Best way to avoid getting suspended/silenced: Avoid profanity. Profanity is a reason enough to get you silenced if you get enough reports
For you to have a reason to report someone “they must intentionally be trying to disrupt and harass their teammates or actively trying to lose” to me it seems like you are calling the people who don’t want to play what you want them to play trolls and report them but yet blizzard said “Note that playing a non-meta Hero does not mean someone is taking part in Gameplay Sabotage. Players who are trying hard to help their team to win should not be reported, regardless of the hero they choose.”
Really hard to take reports system seriously since in the end of the day it might as well be called the “hay i don’t like this dude” system since 90% of people use it for that.
Source https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/17618152124
I have also had tons of trolls and throwers seens the endorsment came out and every report i have done has most likly been 100% ignored
almost every game i am in now had nothing but feeders and thorwers constantly… like today i player about 50 games and only 3 of them where wins all others constant losses all for the same reason of people eather jumps into the enmy team the milliseconds they get out of spawn
What the heck is going on… Are you serious?
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No, you can not just leave a qp game cause
a) you lose Endorsement Points and
b) you are acting disrespectfull towards the other players in the match who actually want to play - and win it. -
Wtf… just because you don’t lose SR doesn’t mean you are not in a qp match to win.
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Yes… to many people playing QP wining DOES matter. Doesn’t mean you have to try very hard or only use heroes you are confident with.
But dude… being allowed to throw in Qp or troll or sabotage gameplay … that is a myth and even if it wasn’t…
… how can you know that others don’t want to actually put effort into the match and by “chilling cause it’s Qp” you are disrespecting them, destroying their game and wasting their time?
Please… Don’t be that kind of guy.
@Trolls Problem
If you don’t want trolls, work on your Endorsement Level and form an own group with minimum Endorsement Level 3 or higher using lfg tool. It is highly unlikely to encounter trolls/throwers
Your reports were probably false and ignored, some one playing attack torb does’t make them a thrower, some one not playing what you want neither makes them a thrower, yes you not gonna win with only 1 healer or tank or no tank or healer, but this is a team game, the whole team can build a team not just 1 player, there for if 6 players pick dps they all have the choice to pick tank or healer to, the other 5 not picking a tank or healer does’t make them throwers, as silly as it sounds at that point you have to consider switching yourself.
What I class as a reportable offence during a comp match:
AFK in spawn.
AFK anywhere else on map.
Deliberately and repeatedly throwing self off map.
Blocking own team in spawn with icewall.
Deliberately blocking doorways etc with icewall to prevent own team passing through.
Deliberately blocking own team’s attacks with icewall.
Deliberately blocking own team’s ultimates with icewall.
99% of the time this makes defeat a foregone conclusion.
I see hundreds of these events everyday, and the vast majority of them are committed by the same small handful of trolls. A small handful of trolls that never get banned and are free to ruin hundreds of matches a day.
I am too sensitive? Yeah, whatever.
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Is there anyone you haven’t reported? lol.
I know what you say there, and i have something similar happening to me because i like to play Symmetra a lots and every single time I have to keep repeating myself from 1 game to an other.
Please do not judge a player just because they choose to play Symmetra impliedly from the start of the game, even before you go out of spawn. If you are going to judge them, then do so AFTHER the game has gone on for a while like if the Symmetra player has died 3-5 times in a row and has about 0-5 kills be that assist or not, cause if they don’t contributes with the team then they are replaceable and should play a different hero.
For example in LFG in my opinion how the locked roles should be this way where there is always 1 of each roles locked and the others should just be flex, or having tank and healer as a locked role and the others as flex. then whoever chooses Symmetra if they are “Forced” to switch then they will have a bigger bunch of heroes to choose between if they have to switch.
As for me if I am having a bad game while playing Symmetra and i’m locked on DPS then there is not that many heroes for me to choose that I am super good at cause I do best on Symmettra when it comes to DPS, all others I am just decent with, except Mccree, he I am nightmarish bad at playing.
Cant tell if some one does something intentional though always, but if they are upset and they switch cos of it and do stuff you would not expect it becomes clear tho.
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