Reworks are BAD

So lately torb has been reworked, and mei had small buffs, I tried just learning how to counter them and tried playing them too, but i really think they are extremely overpowered, and thats NOT the way to make more players play these characters, making them stronger (they even too strong even before the reworks) wont help, it will make players hate these characters, because you get more from them in comparison to other heroes, so you need less skill to be good at them, I think giving torb his ult as an ability just a bit weaker, then giving him another ult, then making it so the turrets is just thrown out at level two is extremely op, just saying, the turret is never level 1 and you almost never have the option to destroy it as its building itself.

about mei, her gun is already extremely strong, you has NO chance of running away from her freeze, which could be okay, but only if it took longer to freeze someone, imagine your a genji, you have 80% aim and you never stop moving but you just used your dash, then a mai walks to you with her gun and starts freezing you, you climb the walls around you, jump and whatnot, and shes just walking after you, now there are only three options usually:
1- mei freezes you and shoots you= you die
2- you got mei really low on hp and now shes using one of abilities to go save herself and she might just go back to option 1
3- you are extremely lucky and mei has no abilities and you kill her

shes should get nerfed quickly, lets say her self freeze thing will heal less, and the gun takes more time to freeze, then shes gonna be balanced

so my point it the reworks should focus on making the characters more fun to play, not stronger, and Im saying that because I know I would play a character which is hard to play if I like to play her, but I wont play a character which is easy to play and overpowerd (aka i was a mei main once and stopped because shes not a challenging character and it took me no effort to win games with her and get potgs, it just has no value because you didn’t work for it…)

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Torb is not OP at all, he is not even viable >.>

I never played him before and once i started i got like 4 play of the games and I always get gold elims with him so I think if hes played by someone who understands how to play him he is the strongest character in the game (though he will be just useless at some situations)

He can get gold elims and damage consistently but that doesn’t matter. A good DPS is someone who kills people quickly and reliably hence why Widowmaker is the best without the need for gold medals.

First things first, widow is the best dps and i love her, and about torb, lets say hes not overpowered but hes an extremely annoying and frustrating character to play against, and usually on a 1v1 a torb will win over most characters

So is Mei, so is the hamster, doesn’t make them powerful.

lets say they are broken, and btw the hamster is extremely weak, never won a 1v1 with him or lost one against him

Both Torb and Mei have one of the lowest play rates in the game, and that will most likely never change. They are both heroes that only a small minority of people want and can play in any meta.

I used to play torb and sym for fun, they had some contributions to team. Now they are totally useless and no fun at all.