Hi, been playing Roadhog for over 120 hours and i love my fatty but i really dislike his ult to the point where i sometimes sit on the ult for a quarter of the match. The design is pretty contradictory, deal more damage the closer the target is but knock your enemy so far away that it doesn’t really matter. Yes i do realize you can try to knock people off the point or try to trap them in a corner but most of the time people are smart enough to not go so close to a Roadhog without an escape due to the shotgun alone. So trapping people in Corners very rarely happens. Another problem with his ult (and a few others) is that you are trapped in that state. You can’t cancel the ult to heal or just stop it to reposition. 80% of the time when a Roadhog ults two things happen, everyone just vanishes and you stand there cranking trash out of your garbage ult while looking like a dumbass or you die before even finishing the ult. The zoning potential is pretty bad too because the further away you are from his ult the less knockback you have. I would honestly prefer an instant reload or a 50% hook reduce on his ult over what he has.
What do you guys think?
The only thing i don’t like about hog ult is that it can’t be turn off.
I think it has a nice place in the game, vs Orisa, Bob etc and it can do a lot of damage when nano’d, like you push your targets normally but with nano most 200 hp once will die before the push back/dmg drop starts to matter and it’s pretty much an instant cast. It can be used to zone and it melts shields. The push back it has makes it harder for stuff like Brig, Mccree, Doom to come in for the CC.
I agree it’s decent against shields but you forget that the shotgun already fills that role. I have been ulted by Ana countless times and it’s honestly very overrated. Most other heroes are way better when ulted by Her.
The shot gun has ammo and kills shields a lot slower then his ult. And then you have the terrain kills you might get but its not likely to but i guess he has hook for that. IDK i fine a lot of uses for it like getting dive heroes off my support. Like hook can CC one but if they are more then 1 the push back is really nice to peal dive on top of doing some damage to them for your teammates to finish.
Im not a hog main but as a widow main once hog ults, its harder for the other team to aim @ me and its easier for me to push up kills since the other team movements keep getting locked in the push back animation on top of removing the shields.
And then you have the, ill ult in this small room and murder everyone inside ult.
A lot of opportunities for this ult to shine but i can aggre that its rare for them to occur.
I just want to stop hogs ult because from what i see the moment i ult vs a Hanzo, Ashe, Widow, reflecting genji etc i just die, but if i can stop the ult i’d might self heal and live.
Yes but you can ult them against a wall or surface and you can also combo it whit Grab (last one is pretty, pretty strong tho!)
And yes, using this ult alone is more like a “zoning” tool, an effective one and can be sometimes a game changer!
You kinda need to combo it, it can do wonders with soldier ult if you attack from a different angle, or melt the rein shield. Zarya ult gave me a 6kill once! Also works good if you hook rein when he flamestrikes and the ult he’s face. But yeah it’s not the best ult in game, but at the same time, McCree and Hanzo can’t get more then 1-2 kills with thier ult alone.
You cant turn off Winston’s ultimate to put down a shield, or Genji’s ultimate to throw some ranged attacks. Its perfectly fine.
Other than that either use it to kill 1-2 people or to free the point, its not that bad.
Considering how quickly it charges I think it’s fine.
i dont think hog needs a good ult since his kit makes up for it
Bad examples, both of those you mentioned still grant the player superior maneuverability. Whole hog slows you down.
It’s good at what it’s for; control. You can either use it to hose a wider area pushing everyone off it, or melt a tank in no-time, allowing your team to move in and take over.
It’s not made to kill stuff, that’s just a side-effect of 5000 damage in five seconds.
So what? They are still channeled ultimates, the only difference being Roadhog does not transform so a stun gets him out of it.
Also both examples pay for their mobility with range, Roadhog does not lose his.
Anyone that stand back and can fire a projectile can wreck hog in his ultimate with minimal effort. The same can’t be said for the other two you mentioned.
Oh, because an ulting Genji has never died immediately. Use brain, don’t waste ult, simple.
Some heroes are defined by their ults, some are a balanced part of the kit, some have niche applications and are otherwise suicidal. With those you just have to use them properly - Deadeye, Barrage and Whole Hog all fall into that category.
I know, Winston can’t stop ult, Genji can’t use reflect at the last sec of his ult, still i don’t enjoy them. I can see why they are in the game thou. Not asking for changes, just stating what i don’t enjoy.
That’s called balance. Roadhog’s ult does a lot of damage if you’re standing close to him (try it out on a fortifying Orisa, she’ll get destroyed in a second). You can also use it to keep people away from an objective or an ulting zen.
I know this is annoying (as someone who loves to play Pharah), but that is another thing about balance. If you could cancel it you could probably heal yourself back up right when your going to die.
Honestly that doesn’t sound like that bad of an idea.
I understand you as I mained him quite early on for a bit. From what I gathered at the time his ult isn’t for killing but rather to get people of off the point.
Oooooh, I never looked at it like that. It was so obvious all along. I have been schooled.
Let’s be honest if you are so deep in their face (at higher ranks) that you can ult an Orisa you will die before even destroying her shield most of the time. It really does not help how gigantic his hitbox is. I also think that an ultimate should be a little bit overpowered. You don’t have it that often after all and isn’t it supposed to be your strongest skill? Hooking, headshotting and melee is a lot more helpful in most situations.