Don’t force role queue into quick play. Quick play is way more casual, and increasing queue times for a mode literally named QUICK play would be so counterproductive.
As for comp, be careful.
While enabling people who are only comfortable in one role to only queue for that role is an excellent idea, it shouldn’t be forced.
It’s also going to be impossible to run any 3/3 or 4/1/1 comps after this, which will be a disappointment to many. Running 4 DPS and a ball and healer is pretty fun.
I hope that blizzard allows you to pick more than one role to queue for, and I also hope we will be allowed to opt out of forced role queue.
I will hate to be in a situation where I’m not queued as tank, but need to switch to ball to stall and can’t
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you can select all roles, and have a lucky dip as to what you get…
P.S its always tank…
so flex players are covered
We’ve discussed all of these points before, in threads still pretty much up high on the front page.
Of course it’s a slippery slope and it has quite some drawbacks, especially where team variation is concerned. Also, as you mentioned, switching to Tracer or Hammond just to contest is no longer possible if you’re locked in a different role.
But in my view, the benefits really outweigh the negatives. There are certainly situations where you wish you weren’t locked into a particular role, but there are far more situations right now, where a 2-2-2 lock is really beneficial. I for one am sick and tired trying to fill for 4 DPS picks, deciding whether I want to keep dying as a tank without healer, or as a healer without tank.
As for QP, I get where that is coming from, but I also think QP should remain as close to competitive as possible, since for most players it’s considered practice mode, or at least a mode to play somewhat seriously in, without the burden of SR. There’s still QP classic mode for people who want it more like it’s now.
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Quick play should just be removed for all I care. A bigger trench of fartsniffers have yet to be found in any other videogame.
If you just watch latest video of PlayOverwatch, you should have seen that NORMAL QUICK PLAY WILL REMAIN. It will be moved to arcade as “Classic Quick play” where it won’t be 2-2-2 lock.
Every role has heroes who can stall.
Tank: Hammond, D.Va, Hog
DPS: Tracer, Mei, Doomfist
Healer: Lucio, Moira, maybe new Brig (not sure about that)
You can just learn which heroes in your role are good for contesting and pick these for the time, then switch back if you can’t play them well.
And now these picks won’t screw up your teamcomp.
I was unaware of this at the making of the OG post.
I would also seem that it actually isn’t there, unless they plan on adding it later on. Certainly isn’t on my arcade.
The whole forced 2/2/2 in QP is bloody annoying, in my opinion. QP should be for whatever you want to play.
That’s because role lock in QP currently is a bug, that has been confirmed already on the US forums. It wasn’t supposed to come to QP before September, as this is a beta season for 2-2-2 in competitive. In QP, it’s only half implemented now, so there is a role lock without a role queue, and that was not the intention, as this “first come, first serve” system is not how role queue will work.
That is also why the classic QP isn’t in the Arcade yet - but it will be in September, and it will be a permanent mode exactly as the QP we know.
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Role Q wasn’t supposed to be in QP right away. That was an error on Blizz’s side. Also, QP original will be an arcade mode.
It’s especially annoying because so many players now, especially the ones not playing competitive, completely misunderstand how the system is going to work.
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At first I was also against changing QP to 222, but after seeing how simple and seamless it is to just tick which of the 3 roles you want to play and then queue, I am fully in favor of it being applied to QP too.
I guess that’s what Classic QP in the arcade is for, for anyone that wants to play other composition variations.
You can pick any of the 3 roles you wish before you queue and you won’t be forced to play any hero outside of a class you haven’t picked. The only way you would be playing Hammond is if you personally ticked the tank class before queuing. If anything, 222 does the opposite of forcing anyone to play anything they don’t want to.
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Play arcade if you want to meme 411, a comp that has never been, nor will ever be, viable.
nobody should be solo heal/tank for 4 derptards who can’t hit the barn, let alone the barn door.
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