Sigma Ultimate was Nerfed too Hard

I’m a Sigma main, and since the January 28th patch, I’ve felt like Sigma’s ultimate is getting getting shut down too easily. It could be just me, but I have a feeling others might have serious disdain for the changes that were made to it; I have thought up some suggestions that would keep it at a reasonable level of power rather than being overpowered, but solve how easy it is to stop the Sigma ultimate.

  1. Instead of being able to counter the ultimate even after he has lifted the enemies up to maximum height, have it so that the ultimate can be cancelled anytime before they are fully lifted up, but once they are at max height, the slam down is guaranteed regardless of CC’s or death. This is still ample time to shut the ultimate down, but will make the Sigma player actually feel like they have a chance instead of getting flashbanged/headshotted or slept even as the enemies have been fully lifted and are a split second away from being slammed back down.

  2. Another option would be to make it so that Sigma is immune to CC during his ultimate, as he is often in the open when using it. I know you can tactically place the shield prior to the ultimate and hover behind it when picking the AoE, however, more often than not this is not reliable, as enemies are moving all the time and it is a really limited area to view from when you are reduced to hovering behind the shield. To clarify, he should still be vulnerable to damage, just not to CC’s while using his ultimate with this proposed fix.

  3. My third solution to this problem would be the opposite of the second; instead of making Sigma immune to CC’s, he could gain an extra 50% of his max HP or gain a reasonable amount of extra armor while using his ultimate. In essence: leave him vulnerable to CC’s but make it harder for snipers and hit-scan to kill him while he’s using his ultimate. This would mean that if teams wanted to shut him down while he was using it, they would need more than one or two easy head shots, and would actually need to communicate with others to down him quicker.

Final thoughts: again, I reiterate that I am aware of the possibility of tactically placing my shield to block CC’s and damage, but I do believe that this heavily limits the possibility for extremely skillful plays with his ultimate, as it leaves Sigma with a limited space to move around while choosing the AoE as he can’t risk popping out from behind the shield at all or he’s meat. Another thing about using his shield to hide behind while he channels the ultimate is that more often than not, an opportunity for an epic play arises in one short moment (such as seeing that the enemy Reinhardt has dropped his barrier before it has broken and choosing to respond with a fast Earthshatter from your teams Reinhardt to catch them unawares), so you have to respond fast. Setting up the shield usually means that one/more or all enemies you could have picked off with it have moved out of the desired area by the time it’s ready; a lot of the time, the shield is already deployed as well, which means recalling the barrier, and then waiting for it to cool down and re-deploying. It is worth remembering also, that like Reinhardt, Zarya and some other heroes, Sigma requires follow up from team members to actually get good usage from his ultimate. On his own, he can only successfully kill one full health enemy with his ultimate unlike many of the damage heroes who can gain regular triple/quadruple kill plays from theirs. For example, it’s as easy now to stop a Sigma ultimate as it is a Reaper/McCree ultimate which seems extremely unbalanced seeing as though Reaper’s and McCree’s ultimates are a lot more devastating when left unchallenged.

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1 word… “paragraphs”… I cant read that migraine inducing wall of text…

It is shut down too easy. It does 50% of someone’s HP but the time you have to interrupt/kill Sigma is too excessive. Once you are in the grip of the flux, you should not be able to stop it coming down and taking damage.

If you just kill sigma before he clicks on the area, its fine.

All channelled ultimates can be interrupted during casting. Sigma will not receive special treatment. It is your own fault if your ult gets stopped, you need to learn to use it at the right time. You are not going to get a free kill button. Sigma has 400 health, you will not die instantly on using it. Sigma’s ult bypasses barriers and deals up to 300 damage per target in a wide area… is that not powerful enough?

It’s exactly 1.6 seconds… you can’t stay alive that long?

Once you are in the grip of the flux, you should not be able to stop it coming down and taking damage.

You want an ability that casts in 0.6 seconds and deals up to 300 damage? Even Doomfist’s punch takes 2.5 seconds to fully charge, and that only does 250 damage.

All channelled ultimates do either A LOT of damage all the time or are potentially deadly, Sigma is not. Since the ultimate is not like all the rest, it shouldnt work like all the rest.
Consistency mate, dont forget basic concepts, k?

When you press Q, you levitate, then you have to point the location, click and then after 1.6 sec, the enemies drop. So no, its not “exactly 1.6 seconds”, the window for interrupting/killing Sigma is WAY LONGER.

Again, learn the facts and dont manipulate the truth or conveniently forget how the ultimate works.
Death Blossom, Barrage, Deadeye, Wholehog … they provide DAMAGE right away or they are literally one shot kills in that time or less … Sigma is NOT.

Once you press Q and do “the whole thing” It can be like 3-4 seconds, its excessive. Period.

All channelled ultimates do either A LOT of damage all the time or are potentially deadly , Sigma is not.

Doing 50% of your health in one shot isn’t a lot of damage?

So no, its not “exactly 1.6 seconds”, the window for interrupting/killing Sigma is WAY LONGER.

Only if you hold it. Again, that is your problem.

Death Blossom, Barrage, Deadeye, Wholehog … they provide DAMAGE right away

Deadeye provides damage right away lol…

they are literally one shot kills in that time or less

Deadeye does 270 damage after 1.6 seconds, which is less than Sigma’s maximum… given that McCree is a dps that seems fair.

Once you press Q and do “ the whole thing ” It can be like 3-4 seconds, its excessive. Period.

I was under the impression that forums were about discussion, but apparently we aren’t having one. You’re just going to insist on your belief irrespective of the evidence?

For the time it takes? absolutely not.

Only if you hold it, which is literally the only way to do it because otherwise you cant see the area properly.
Check any stream ever, nobody presses Q and M1 instantly.
Unless you want to waste the ult so stop pretending like the average cast of Flux is 1.6 seconds, because its false.

Read the full sentence and stop being dishonest:
ll channelled ultimates do either A LOT of damage all the time or are potentially deadly
Those tactics dont work mate, you got busted.

Mcree has also infinite range and can target anyone on sight.
He can also move the mouse when shooting so as long as ANYTHING is on LOS, he will shot it so yeah, wrong again.

Evidence and facts literally prove you wrong. You had to cut off sentences to try to refute my claims and conveniently forget facts about other ults and average casting time of Sigma’s ult to have a resemblance of a chance mate.

You just happened to be wrong, its ok. Nothing else to add. :man_shrugging:

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Evidence and facts literally prove you wrong

In that case I hope you stop throwing a tantrum and show me some. There’s really nothing for me to engage with here, you’re just insisting that you’re right over and over with nothing to back you up. Wasn’t it only a few weeks ago that everyone was crying about how powerful Sigma was? I can’t keep up with you people anymore, it’s a new story every day.

Tantrum? it seems that you are the one that is mad here after i refuted every single point and literally proved your dishonesty cutting off sentences and “forgetting things” on purpose buddy.

Again, you have nothing else to add. Dont move the goalpost and ask for more evidence. If you expect a developer posting an analysis of average casting times of Sigma ults or something, you shouldnt hold your breath.

Well if you have selective memory and “forget things”, sure. Never said that myself so you have to back up and think again because otherwise you are here posting just to post :rofl:

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I’ll be honest I like how you can be stunned out of the ult. However I feel like the hack is too harsh. A sombra anywhere near will shut it down.