long story short i had two matches last night with a blatant smurf whom im not allowed to name how ever much i want to
first match he was on my team playing widow… and couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn with a blunderbuss at point blank range… he was a low level so i didn’t think much of it i just took my unavoidable loss like a big boy and carried on…
second match this same person is on the enemy team, playing widow again… and jesus christ it was like playing against a GM… this is in high plat btw, hitting ever head shot, impossible to get close to and having ult at least every team fight… obviously this was highly suspicious…
again i looked at the level and came to the conclusion it was a smurf…
this problem is getting ridiculous… not only is it cheating but its also game play sabotage its time to admit it…
firstly how is it cheating?
cheating = gaining an unfair advantage over other players : smurfing is gaining an unfair advantage because they are gaming the matchmaker to give them easier opponents… its cheating plain and simple
secondly how is it gameplay sabotage?
gameplay sabotage = preventing fair and fun gameplay experience for other players via various strategies : purposefully playing badly to keep the matchmaker satisfied that that person belongs in that skill rating by purposely loosing badly is gameplay sabotage for the other team mates… on the other hand being on the enemy team and kerb stomping them because you are far beyond their skill level is ruining their match aka sabotaging their game…
this problem is beyond a joke and its time something is done about it… im not a game dev so i don’t know what can be done… but i’m fed up of losing because of a smurf who wont try… and then again losing playing against a smurf who cant be killed…
and before you say they have already been reported for both cheating and gameplay sabotage but a report is not enough… they shouldn’t be there in the first place
This is why i think blizzard should make a system where you can have only ONE overwatch copy of the game per IP address.
“oh, but pinkfloyd, what if i get banned?” well that’s your own problem, don’t be toxic next time!
So yeah, ONE game per IP address would be awesome.
(again, idk if thats possible, but if a website can make a “voting system” based on your IP, i think i big company like blizzard should be able to do something similar with a game)
Yeah or you think he was bad on your team. And you realized he was actually good when he was put against you. I mean my favorite thing is to tell about j0000mla who did bronze to GM and he was flamed by a gold or plat that he should switch and hes hard stuck noob. People just dont understand whats happening in games.
Okay, why would you want to? Names are secondary to battletags. There could be a thousand people sharing his in-game name. Revealing it would accomplish nothing.
YOU came to that conclusion. You have no proof that he/she is in fact a smurf. It’s just a conclusion formed by…you.
What if he’s new? What if he’s played a ton of other FPS games, but only recently picked up OW? I’ll go out on a limb here and say a skill like aiming carries over from other games.
You have absolutely no way of knowing that.
Being good at games isn’t against the rules, and neither is smurfing. Suck it up. Reporting people for it will do little or nothing for you.
This wouldn’t work, because what if you have multiple people using the same IP. Example I could have an account, and my brother could have his own, but with a ban only one of us could have it. Also it’s not possible to share one account as it’s against ToS, so IP ban just isn’t possible.
Also there is dynamic IP. How nice it would be that when your IP changes and someone else already played on that IP you and the guy gets banned? And the next guy using that IP and so on. That would just be stupid.
Or you simply blame the loss on your widow, and the next game you blame your loss on… the same widow, who’s now on the other team.
Take responsibility for your losses, don’t blame other people. There are always things you could’ve done better. That’s the only constructive way to actually go about it.
this is a team game, although no doubt i could play better because i am platinum, if one on my team refuses to play because they are a smurf who needs to loose to keep at that rank, there is nothing i can do about it hence the loss is blamed on the person who wasn’t trying
What I am saying is that you seem to blame the widow. There is absolutely no point in assigning blame to somebody else, especially when your foundation for claiming that person wasn’t trying is so weak. People blame the widow ALL THE TIME, and always claim she’s not hitting anything. I’ve been playing widow with 60+ scoped accuracy, spent the entire match on fire, and still been told I don’t hit any shots. You may, or may not, be biased and have a wrong impression, but the only constructive way of dealing with a loss is taking responsibility for it.
regardless of what you think my blaming of the widow is not a baseless accusation… the first match i said absolutely nothing i just assumed they were playing a hero they wanted and thats fine so long as they try there best i havent got a problem
it was when we got into the second match, and this widow who couldnt hit a thing at all, turned into someone who a lesser skilled person would assume they had an aimbot they were so accurate
no one… and i mean no one, goes from 0 to 100 in the space of a match unless they are cheating with an aimbot… or… smurfing and purposefully losing in order to maintain a certain rank
this is where the blame comes from i accept that part of the loss was my fault… but, as you cant win this game in a 5v6 senario… the widow who wasnt trying is the main causal factor for our loss, and then again was the causal facor for my second loss because im not a GM player and dont have the skill to take on someone who is
No hard proof/evidence = no reason to make that assumption
I’ve had plenty of games on Widowmaker back when I played her alot where I just wasn’t “in the zone” one game and totally slayed the very next.
I think that without proof or evidence besides “your gut feeling” that I can’t feel about a match I did not witness, I can conclude beyond a shadow of a doubt that your accusations are exactly that > Baseless. Regardless of what you think of it.
The only position from which you can say something “regardless of what others think of it” is when the facts are supported by evidence that clearly shows that what you say is the truth.
Which leads me to this point; You cannot, reliably, invent or think of any system in the world that would not suspect a really good fresh player from being a smurf and getting banned for purchasing Overwatch.
You’ve said so yourself; You are not a game developer. But you don’t have to be to see that without an admission of guilt from the smurf, there’s no way for the system to tell the difference between a very talented new player or a smurf on his 12th account. There’s too many players playing Overwatch so you can’t base it on “similar looking emails”, there’s people like me who live with their girlfriend who also plays OW from the same connection, or student apartments that share internet connections, the list goes on.
If this kind of paranoia is allowed to take hold of reporting systems and other measures Blizzard put in place, Overwatch would become literally unplayable in a heartbeat. Tough it out or shrug it off, grow some thicker skin, it’s just a game.
games are supposed to be fun, losing because of smurfs either not trying, or kerb stomping you is not fun, and it happens more often than not in my rank because GMs like to do this for amusment
And new players who are really talented at these kinds of games like to play them for amusement too, so should they be insta-banned a few days after buying OW because a few GMs curb stomp your games?
If you feel those GMs are being selfish with their smurfs, the very least you could do is not stoop to their level of selfishness and propose that everybody we suspect of being a smurf should be reported and get suspensions or worse, don’t you think?
people who are talented and play properly wont be at the rank i am, they will be catapulted into masters or GM because that’s the way the matchmaker works
smurfs purposefully cheat the matchmaker by purposefully losing to maintain a lower rank so then they can have a match where they can kerb stomp for free
If you’re that dead set on not pulling any punches at all, then by all means, propose a solution that works…
So far, there clearly hasn’t been one, and your original solutions won’t work for obvious reasons, so all that’s left now is a difference of opinion without anything to solve or even correctly identify the problem…
You seem to mind a whole lot, others seem to mind not at all, so where do you wanna go from here?
have a discussion on how to solve the problem rather than having to defend the problem against idiots who dont even bother to read it and instead instantly attack it with arguments that dont apply when the games mechanics and matchmaking system are taken into account
I’ve addressed you, your points and the systems you wanted to challenge directly. How about not being so passive aggressive and stepping up and just saying out loud what the problem is? Because we were having that discussion you just asked for, it just didn’t go in the direction you like, and I’m suspecting that’s why your last reply sounded a bit irritable…