Stop giving me players who are complete beginners

If you put a level 8 Orisa in my team that tries out what the buttons do without actually moving, then please PAY me for my kindergardening service.

Josh Menke, who made this matchmaker needs to donate all his organs today so the gaming world can be better off tomorrow.
There is absolutely no reason for someone like that, who turns a great game potential to aggravating crap, to exist in any relevant place, please fix.

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Greetings @Cats, I would not agree with you.Overwatch become another level for many many things since previous year March .One of the best shining that Overwatch have is Matchmaking,Balance,Community.

Your MMR will be similar.

If you don’t want them, sadly there is only one thing to do. Grind those improvements!!

I have plenty of criticisms of the matchmaker, but every beginner has to start somewhere, and sometimes that place is in your QP games.

You were a beginner once too.

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It’s because Activision pressured Blizzard to get some income, any kind, so they sold new accounts to old players who are now pretending to be new players ( as far as the game knows).

Old players with new accounts are being matched with actual new players. This means almost every game is totally mismatched skill wise.

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This is certainly the start of a conspiracy. Credit.

Eh I feel bad for the beginners in the future. Since MMR is going to be circumvented by F2P model altogether.

I agree with your frustration, and to answer the person saying everyone gotta start somewhere: training area.
My 9yo nephew was playing on my laptop the other day, he now loves ”overhatch” as he calls it. He was that person standing still as ball, as orisa, not knowing how to properly walk (he usually plays fifa on console so keyboard movement is completely new to him)

I was so scared that he’d get me reported for gameplay sabotage so I set him up in games against bots instead.

So for the new players out there, go in to the training area with whatever hero you wanna test and try out movements and keys there. Then go in to a qp game whenever you feel secure enough with that hero.

But I do agree that the matchmaking system shouldn’t put players below level 100 in games with players above that.
Problem is the game is now that old that there aren’t as many new low level players as when we started.
6 years ago when I started almost everyone was low level, it was rare to see a level 300+ at that time.

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It isn’t.
New players have 20+ hours of gaming to get their MMR is a sound place.

@Cats

I totally agrre with you, there’s a paper online somewhere about higher MMR player babysitting bad MMR players it goes something like this, There’s a pool of players, the game needs 12 to start a match, Team 1 gets the highest MMR player, team 2 gets the next 2 or 3 higher MMR players, team 1 gets 5 low MMR players to even out the team MMR, team 2 gets 3 slightly higher MMR that team 1 lowest MMR players, the mathematical result is an even teams MMR, in reality your team has 1 good player, team 2 has 3 good MMR players so if youre the 1 high MMR player you have to deal with 3 slightly lower MMR players that yourself which you are supposed to carry your team through as the 1 good player

Yes, I read that too. Blizzard said at one point that in Quickplay they purposely see to mixing strong players and very weak players/beginners within a team to “give the beginners an outlook/motivation to improve”. Problem is that this is basically the strong players forced to provide unpaid training sessions and having their match ruined.

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It is quick play though. Can you ruin something that has zero meaning?

I don’t think this is true - there are so many “smurf”/new accounts from existing players, that as someone who is on a fresh account, I see other new accounts all the time. It’s not that rare.

A smurf account is not what most people think, it’s a high level account deranking and not an experienced player getting a new account. And also only happening in comp.

And I think you misunderstood my point, even if an experienced player got a new account their level of knowledge of the game would still be high and not noob like when the game was new and nobody knew how to play it.

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That’s why I put smurf in quotes and said “new accounts from existing players” next to it. I just meant to say that even if the people under lvl 100 are not new players, but rather, experienced, there is still a lot of under lvl 100 players, so your concern about there not being enough under lvl 100 players is misguided. You’re right in saying that there aren’t many truly new players anymore, though.

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I challenge you to buy a new account and first see how many new players you encounter.

I can tell you, it is almost all legit new players, until the MMR system figures you out and puts you with experienced players that better match your skill.

If, as an experienced, you are getting new accounts that seem to play like complete beginners there is only one reason for that, and it’s a pretty harsh reality.

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I bought a new account recently! That’s why I’m speaking from experience! And then I mostly get matched up with fellow experienced players on that account, but there’s really still a lot of players with the <100LVL border.

There is. Most are new new players.

There is also a reason they are binning off account level borders in OW2. They mean nothing.

Yes, I’d like to occasionally win a few games

Then play to win. Easy.