Hello everyone!
This is my first post so please go easy on me.
I have been observing the current state of Overwatch and despairing at the outrage and upset over the game. I’ve noticed a lot of the community calling for nerfs to this character, or buffs to that character. Even going so far as to beg for removal of some (Brig)
I think that we need to keep perspective. People calling for Nerfs to Brig don’t realise that this poor character is useless outside of a certain comp. Same goes for Lucio. This holds true for tanks and healers. Healers needs to keep the healing power due to the power of dps at the moment. But then if we nerf tanks and healing, dps will run wild.
To this end, I say that we stop trying to nerf and juggle and ruin characters and instead focus on what new content can be added to add some counter play. Certain characters need reworking, but the argument needs to be solid and well thought through rather than “ITS BROKEN NERF IT ASJDHASOJHDOA”
Maybe adding some characters that can anti heal. Maybe a character that can slow? There is so much potential and so many ideas left untouched that surely there is better ways to fix this situation than try to nerf characters out of meta and ruin their play rate? Let’s get creative and work together rather than scream because we’re mad ![:smiley:](https://d1kzxbyyijk9k6.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/smiley.png?v=6" ":smiley:")
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May I remind you that the whole Brigitte debacle started because they refused to properly nerf dive heroes and instead added a new one to counter them? If anything nerfs and balance changes should be a priority and adding new characters should be to enrich the experience, not to counter it.
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Making the game into a hard rock paper scissors is the worst thing they can do at this point.
Better to just balanced out the the problems with real nerfs and not the light nerf excuses they used so far. Since goats didn’t get worse not even a little looking at the OWL…
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I understand. However, so far the nerfing and buffing seems very desperate and is in actuality not changing very much at all.
I do think that characters need to be monitored and re-worked/nerf/buffed. But I feel right now that Nerfing isn’t doing anything apart from ruining characters. Brig has no play outside GOATS. Once they do add something or buff other characters to add counter-play to GOATS, that leaves a perfectly good hero unplayable. Which I’d hate to see any character not played 
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I say we wait. Goats are less popular now than they were before. Could be that teams are still very much used to them. If after some weeks they remain as the undoubtedly best solution then more small nerfs will be needed.
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Yes. I just want more characters to add counter play and challenge GOATS rather than borderline kill a character off just to be rid of it. I feel we can find solutions without destroying characters 
Thank you for your comment!
Small nerfs won’t help.
The problems in goats is like 4 heroes.
Lucio: Speed boost and ult.
Zarya: Bubbles and ult.
Reins: Shield and ult.
D.va: Def matrix.
This 4 heroes are the staple at this point.
Then you have:
Melee attacks bypassing shields to damage a discorded target. Because nothing in this game punishes melee/swing.
Zen ult, has counters but still it trades 1 for 1 if you just use it after nade. Brig ult wins nearly every brawl.
And then you have Goats with Ana Winston…
There’s just no places for Dps in this game in high rank…
Hello, they recently added Ashe.
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This I agree with. Dps feel a lot weaker as you go up. I’m just trying to encourage a creative mindset in which maybe we can find better answers to these problems rather than just remove/ruin some characters.
As for the brig issue after this recent nerf where her armour is the first in priority to take damage and the armour nerf in general last patch, her ult is very much less effective. Unfortunately I don’t think we can punish melee with out it breaking the characters… I don’t claim to know all, I just want to encourage a healthy discussion as to what can be done to preserve characters and keep the game fresh
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One more thing.
They way all the nerfs on goats feel.
1st nerf to goats was Brig stun now block’d by shields.
Well good, goats run the best shield so they got better.
2n nerf to goats D.va def matrix 2 sec cd, well now Zarya can ult better.
3d goats nerf shield HP is after armor.
Well now everyone gains less ult charge.
The moment they nerf something in goats, something else in goats gets better.
Better to just add hero banns or make the game 2/2/2 by default. Because in the end all the goats nerf will make this heroes unplayable outside of goats comps…
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When they add a new character in order to counter something, I don’t want them to make it so clear cut. I want them to add counters, but make so that there is counter play. Look at how Winston+Reaper used to play. A good Winston could out play a Reaper. However, a good Reaper could step on a Winston.
There is very little of this it seems. It’s something I think would be very beneficial to the game moving forward. There is no denying that the buffs and nerfs they have applied so far have done nothing to the higher tier and destroyed the lower tier.
Again, people calling for this or that needing to be Nerfed need to really think about what the could mean for that character and category and come up with smarter more creative solutions.
Anti-heal is the most powerful ability in the game, and adding any more would kill the support role for good. Healing is not overpowered.
As it stands there are vanishingly few genuine issues with game balance, and none of them are being addressed. Instead the focus is on whatever the pros are complaining about, as though their experience is in any way useful to the larger community.
Oh on, the people whose literal lives revolve around the game do not know what they are talking about or what they are doing. All of their suggestions and experience are harmful to the majority. We’d be much better without them. Game is perfectly balanced as it is, only a few DPS characters need to be nerfed as always.
My literal opinion on hero bans + the stuff i spammed all month.
(video cuts to hero ban “rant”)
Atm instead of having a ban phase we have a meta enforced bans…
Meaning that if you don’t have 3/3 with the best ult in the game, all the shields and a tank comp you lose the objective and the game…
Oh and this is for everyone who thinks that goats takes mechanical skill…
“Games feel like a coin flip” because everything is cap’d on easy to play op heroes, they even made it so Korea is on = footing with the world because they kill’d everything skill’d in this game…
Its depressing to watch some of those amazing DPS players like Carpe being forced to play Zarya. Small steps though, sometimes they do get to play a heavily skill intensive hero for a couple of minutes.
The way i see it, adding new heroes and finding a good game balance are somewhat conflicting.
There’s so many variables to consider and adding even more will just make the equation harder to solve.
If you add a new hero to fix one problem, there’s a good chance it will just create 2 new.
When we see people simultaneously complain about the game being unbalanced and not enough new content being added, we are putting the developers in a very difficult spot. They won’t have time to do both at a reasonable rate and will therefore have to choose one or have both processes take longer.
Blizzard seem to be somewhat obsessed trying to please every1, so they choose the slow route, which in turn just makes everyone angry.
Personally I’d prefer them to focus more on game balance by nerfing/buffing/bug fixing.
Just enforce 2 2 2 and role queue with role based SR MMR and put an end to it now before there is nothing left.
I couldn’t agree with you anymore!.. that’s should be the main focus of the game developers ADDING MORE PLAY OPTIONS = HEROS.
I just hate opinions such as heroes shouldn’t counter another heroes and force 2/2/2. its a TEAM based shooter and this should involve strategy and tactics not just pic damage heros with minor changes and start to kill…
also this kids shouting to remove and nerf brig., those type of opinions already ruined the game (remember mercy massacre, new symmetra 2.0 and the dumb crazy powerful doomfist 2.0).
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I dont think the meta is exciting but it is playable.
In general i would just love to see more heros coming, maybe just a hero dump off 4 or 5 heros. Overwatch needs to do something to compete with games like apex and fortnite. Would love to hear your opinions about this.
Keep in mind the game is an Esports title.
You are not likely to get a hero dump like that, especially not while OWL is running.
If a game is purely catered to the casual player, i agree that more content will generally be better.
