Suggestion for 3-2-1

General Discussion
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3-2-1 but better

1 tank
2 supports
2 dps
1 specialist

No double barriers
No Torb and Sym
No Sym and Mei strat
No possible triple sniper (Hanzo Widow Ashe)
List goes on…

How to achieve?

All current off-tanks and some current dps heroes should be reworked to fit into new specialist category

Specialists (just a suggestion to show in which direction heroes should be reworked):

Roadhog - reduce hp to 400 self-heal to 200, reduce hitbox and weapon spread, add passive (gets some damage and cc resistance while using any ability or ultimate).

Zarya - reduce hp to 300, nerf grav radius and duration, increase grav damage, increase damage at 0 charge and reduce ultimate cost.

D.Va - reduce hp to 400, increase primary damage, reduce spread and falloff, add overheat meter to primary fire. Add passive (Dead enemies leave scrap or some neon glowing gamer hearts which heals D.Va instantly for 100 hp ).

Wrecking Ball - reduce survivability, increase damage .

Mei, Torb, Sym and Sombra should also be reworked(adjust damage, buff utility) to fit into this category.

And remember:
Never accept Overwatch as it appears to be, dare to see it for what it could be.

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that sounds like a lot of effort while 2-2-2 is still far better

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You want a role that includes Roadhog and Sombra? How are those heroes comparable at all? Unless you mean that you’re going to change them, in which case that’s a pretty big middle finger to the people who like them.

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Personally I think they should do a 1-1-2-2 idea. Balance the off-tanks and the high sustain DPS into a new role that is bruiser, more beefy, less damage than DPS but provide self sustain and other team benefits.

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Or just accept OW as it is, 222 is fine. No role should be solo anything.

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why should people accept a version of the game they do not like?
The primary purpose of the forums is this exact sort of thing, discussing the game and proposing changes.

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Because you have other game modes to play.

If you wanted to discuss the game properly, you’d go to the US forums where the devs actually respond. It’d be a waste of time because the Devs are happy with how 222 has played out, they just want to try and help with dps times (a wasted amount of development time personally but shrug).

Oh wait…you’re banned for being exactly who you are…

snort

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because there are othe game modes to play people are not allowed to discuss the problematic ones?

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Every single game mode in the arcade including QPC

Deathmatch / Team Deathmatch

222 RQ in QP/Comp is not problemtic, you just think it is because it means you can’t force people to throw anymore.

If anything, going by your logic, you don’t have the game installed and you don’t play, why exactly should you have any say?

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its not just me, its also plenty of other people.
Not the point here at all… If people are not pleased with the course the game is taking they can discuss it on the forums, thats what these are for.

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Not enough to actually be worth it. As proven by blizzards own words and various polls of the forums AND reddit, the majority of players like role q.

And yes, it is the point. Blizzard effectively ignore all other forums other than the US.

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so what?? There are other people who disagree and they come to forums making propositions. Nothing wrong with that.

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Except:

  • just remove rq it’s garbage
  • remove 222 lock it’s made everyone quit the game

aren’t facts or propositions, they’re bad opinions because people can’t accept the way things are, or need to be.

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its a valid proposal and its true.

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Except it isn’t true, is never going to be true, and has been disproven by actual facts and numbers.

If every single poll done by the forums and reddit has come out in favour of RQ, and the devs have stated they’ve seen a majority positive response, it means your opinion is meaningless, irrelevant, useless.

RQ is the best thing OW has done for sometime, and should have been implemented from the start.

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what about all the people who quit the game because of the rq, they are not included in these polls as most people who quit a game don’t bother lingering on forums.

you mean like yours?

another irrelevant opinion of yours?

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  • what about all the people who quit the game

You don’t have to play to post or participate in a poll. You’re living proof of that.

my opinion, I bother to go and get the facts and back up what I say when asked - you don’t.

Again, backed by fact. Multiple polls + devs word > yours

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but most people probably won’t do it. People who are passionate about the game will stick for a while, but others won’t. Why do I need to explain such obvious stuff to you, are you f*ing 10?

who cares. People can still disagree, thats whats called opinion. You can have dev posts as evidence on your side and I still can disagree because I have a different view on things from the devs. Devs can also change their mind depending on the feedback and response from players, which wouldn’t be the case if nobody could voice their dissenting opinions. Dissent is often a path to improvement.
Again, are you 10 so I need to explain basic stuff to you whats an opinion and why none of them are irrelevant?

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Because you clearly don’t get it kid, you’re basically having to explain it to yourself, or I am anyway.

You claimed people quit, meaning you think they don’t participate if they don’t play - your very existence disproves that. People participate in polls regardless, and every poll has been majority positive for role queue. every single one. There hasn’t been a single poll where negative comes out on top.

Opinion is irrelevant when compared to the facts. The devs statement utterly outweighs your opinion, yours is not equal to theirs.

Devs aren’t going to change 222 because the majority is that it’s good.

You are irrelevant. Your posts are irrelevant. Your opinion is irrelevant

Get used to it.

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why do you respond to irrelevant opinions?
To you they seem to have some sort of relevance obviously, as otherwise you wouldn’t respond.
Are you a commie authoritarian prick who was raised to denounce every dissenting voice as irrelevant? In that case I can’t envy your life, comrade.