One of my other accounts has just received an account suspension for being a Good Sportsman. In that, I’ve been reported twice today on two separate occasions for games where the enemy team have had a leaver. In both games, I was the highest fragger up until the point of their leaver, to which I then stated in global chat I was abstaining from combat until the leaver returned. In both cases the leaver never returned, and the match was still won by my team.
I do not understand why I’ve now been banned. The game is meant to be played fairly and on an even playing field. There’s no “leaver bonus” in Overwatch to which damage is increased and health increased (like some MOBAs), so playing 5v6 is a guaranteed loss for the enemy team. The very fact there’s a “Sportsmanship” commendation reward you can receive makes this whole ordeal laughable since I’ve actually been banned for being a good sportsman (the enemy teams have commended me on both occasions).
Huge input.
Considering your troll nature, and lack of caring about something good actually occuring in the game on EU Servers… I’d expect your accounts are a stone’s throwaway from being permanently banned anyway… so I’m actually quite surprised you don’t have anything to add to the broken reporting system as you’ll likely have accumulated a metric ton of reports just for being yourself, let alone a good sportsman.
Either way to the op you should’ve received either via mail or in-game what exactly got you banned, but since it’s against the code of conduct to even talk about your bans there is nothing that the forums is going to do for you.
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However, I applied important rules when doing something like this:
What’s important is that you get the permission by your team. If you don’t, you ruin someone’s enjoyment out of “selfish reasons” and thus you are gameplay sabotaging.
Next time, get the permission of your team before you start to fair throw.
The problem herein lies that Blizzard don’t actually read reports, which makes the report system itself a failed feature. They simply allow enough reports to accumulate, and then take action upon that, and that’s it.
Last night, I was being flamed for playing as a duo with a Bastion and Orisa… despite being the highest fraggers and the only two actually looking like being able to win, we got reported multiple times for “throwing”.
So really, in this game, you actually can’t do any of the following without being banned;
Play for fun/entertainment.
Be a good sport.
I’ve also been banned previously for NOT joining voice comms because I’m so sick of being flamed in games… but wait, I get silenced for defending myself and my actions because other players report me?
None of the report system works. It’s a failed system and failed feature… and this topic of discussion completely proves it.
EDIT:
@Atrophy
It isn’t being unsportsmanlike at all… it’s the very definition of playing fairly, and thus being a good sport.
I’m not running into the enemy team feeding them (like some people do), I’m not walling players in spawn, or obstructing the objective… I’m simply spectating and nothing more and letting the two teams of five fight for the objective.
The worst part is, if I’d simply left the match, I’d have received a 10 minute competitive ban only, lost 50SR, and I wouldn’t have received an account suspension for NO REASON.
You can still appeal to get the penalty lifted but it won’t work. The GM will still think that you deserved the penalty because how you fair threw was gameplay sabotage.
Do it only if you got the ok by everyone in your team.
Yeah, but in EU servers you don’t have anyone else that’s a good sportsman evidently.
In Korean matches, the game would be put to a draw typically (if possible) or balanced in teams… so I don’t really understand why people in EU feel the need to report individuals especially since we still won.
Because you were throwing without their permission. No matter how kind your motive was, you still committed a crime. You can only do it if everyone else is ok with that
Well, if you’re playing football and one of the opponents is sent off with a red card, I think your team would be pretty annoyed if you just sat down on the field and watched the action from that point on. Sure, it’s a bit different because your team in OW isn’t a permanent team, but that’s kinda the bigger problem: if you don’t see your team as a unit that stands together - if only for 15 minutes - then that’s also bad sportsmanship in a way. I think that you always have a responsibility towards your team, a responsibility to play your best, to fill the role that fits best (and that you can play) and to give those 6 people the best shot at winning with intangible things (like being positive and helpful in voice chat). If you start there, then there’s a lot less leavers and a situation like that never arises.
Who says that your opponents deserved the sportsmanship? What if they bullied the leaver away from the game by being toxic? About 80% of leavers do so because of their team mates.
I don’t think I would have reported you. But I also don’t think that your behaviour is as white-knight-y as you think it is.
If this guy is serious he absolutely deserved all the reports he could get. Newsflash, mate, not everybody shares your sentiments of “being noble” yet you assume that to be the case. Selfish, so selfish.
The leaver gets harsh punishment because of the disadvantage he/she puts the team in. If you choose to do that on purpose, sure … it is technically “levelling the field” but it is also punished because it is gameplay sabotage.
If all players involved do agree on making it a draw, no problem. If theres no agreement and you choose to go against your team and do nothing, you got what you deserved pal.
In the case of football, the red card is a punishment for bad play. In no way would I do that for bad play.
On both occassions I asked the enemy team why the leaver, and in both situations the players said “I don’t know, he never said anything”, so considering how often players randomly get disconnected from the game, the likely scenario is the player was disconnected from the game by Blizzard which is an unfair removal of the player.
Using your metaphor, it’s more like if all of a sudden a player was abducted by aliens in the middle of the match and the team doesn’t have any substitutions left.
@Bustar;
lol, troll. Since when can a selfless act be deemed as selfish?
@Rainmaker;
Isn’t that the problem though? Blizzard punishes teams for players that get disconnected. There’s no pause period or cooldown. There’s no buff to the remaining teammates like in other games. It’s literally a guaranteed loss with the ONLY way to get anything out of the game is by punishing the player(s) on the enemy team that runs in thinking your team has already given up… and that in most cases is simply just a even-playing field from that point onwards, with your players already with damage dealt to them.
If you were in a strictly solo competition like running, one of the other competitors got injured and you decided to stop running yourself out of solidarity or something then fine. You affect only yourself and your placement.
Not so when you are playing with other people in a competitive environment with the goal being to win. You cannot impose your values on them, call those values selfless and act surprised when they don’t share them. Not how it works, especially how continuing playing as 6 is not punishable in any way.
See, what you did was worse than someone who refuses to switch. At least they presumably play and contribute. You decided, purely on a whim I may add, to act noble in spite of your teammates’ interests.
Dude don’t do that.
Just play the game. Everyone gets leavers, so it should balance itself out in the long run.
You’re kind of screwing up the statistical balance for your teammates
I joined a qp game with big groups in it, someone seemed that he lost connection. Asked me if I could leave so he can rejoin his group, as a good person I did. Blizz punished me with lowering my useless endorsement level. Sad story. The conclusion is never help this community let them rot.
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