So since there is only 1 tank but it carries most of the team’s weight due to being OP in comparison to other roles now, if there is a tank diff it’s immediately gg.
In OW1 you still had the 2nd tank who might compensate.
Nice… not.
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That’s always possible in a competitive team game. Any role can be outperformed by the enemy. Basically you are saying “if the enemy plays better than us, we lose”. No shiz, sherlock.
How big was the chance that this made much difference?
It honestly sounds like you’re just making up reasons to bash the 1-2-2 system. Whatever might be problematic with this setup, this is the least relevant one.
maybe you should help your tank better then, a tank does not succeed on its own.
a tank is literally nothing without the firepower and support behind them.
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I also have the vibe that this is the kind of guy who writes “gg” in chat when the first team fight is lost.
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to me it seems like they don’t really play tank and have little understanding how that role actually functions.
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Every player and role has the chance to “diff” now.
When it appears to be a tank diff… It’s probably because your tank is focus on the wrong target, while there’s has the right idea of just ignoring your tank and going for better targets.
Often the people say ‘’(insert role here) diff’’ are the problem.
I won a game yesterday where the entire time the enemy team was ragging on their tank, but then looking at the scoreboard he was out-damaging and out-killing their dps, whilst their healers combined had done less healing than just one of our healers.
People just don’t like taking the blame themselves, even when there’s evidence that they’re part of the problem.
Sometimes it’s not even that any one player is bad at their role though, it’s just that this group of players don’t play well together.
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For the record, I completely get what you are saying and agree with the gist of it, but in the example you describe above it’s perfectly possible that their dps and healers couldn’t perform well, because the tank was chasing kills. Had a flank Roadhog yesterday playing Deathmatch in a payload match, constantly leaving his team behind to die.
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well, the weird part is that the tank didn’t do anything wrong when he did that, it’s just if his team wasn’t playing around that fact that made it a problem.
like really you can view tank plays in 2 different ways, either you think of them as the player that follows everybody else or you think of them as the player that gets followed by everyone else.
and depending on the tank you have to act accordingly what they do from moment to moment.
before with 2 tanks you usually had a tank that was more about the protecting the team individually and the other who was the tip of the spear.
you can’t ask a tank to be both at the same time unfortunately, but they can be one or the other from moment to moment.
LOOL, no a good tank can easily carry now. Rein can carry - the Rein doesn’t get heals, he switches to Roadhog and insta hook, shoots healer.
Its 100% tank gap, first game I had their hog had 3x our hog dps despite our dps and healing having more input. We lose. Second game HUGE Orisa gap, they had 3x our Orisa damage, same healing and dps. We lose. 3rd game HUGE Junkqueen gap. We lose.
My main accounts had been gm in every role but dps, I have 5 games played on every tank and Sigma - 100% win, Orisa - 80% win, Rein - 15 games played and 75% win rate, DVA - 82% win, Hog - 75% win, Winston - 60% win and hardly any games were fun, challenging or anything. Just a complete ROFL stomp afk, sleep
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that’s actually where you are wrong, and why you are such a bad liar.
the higher up you go the harder it is for a tank to do anything by themselves because there’s so many cooldowns preventing them from accomplishing anything by themselves.
the only place hog even get to roam around and delete people with a 3 times higher dps than the enemy hog is, is in bronze to plat.
the higher up you go, the thinner the margin is for winning, that’s just simple facts of competition.
and another tell that you’re lying is how you respond to criticism.
Ok bro, tank has the highest carry potential in the game and 1 tank per team, with an individual skill gap doesn’t give the team with the better tank a HUGE advantage, you’re so dumb dude.
Yes, the higher the rank the less tank skill gap but that applies to about 10% of the player base being Diamond and up.
and anything below diamond is literally anyone can carry pretty much if they are good enough or having a good enough game.
Yeah, good one. Tank is by FAR the most op role in the game, most games I have played in dogcrap OW2 the tank has x3 the amount of damage as either dps
because they can press the advantage with bigger hp pools and have easier low dmg abilities to connect with.
you have to take the elims and dmg of tanks with a grain of salt because most of it is just pressure dmg and wonky elims that counts 3dmg as an elim.
just because a tank have the most elims doesn’t mean he killed all of them, it just means he assisted in doing so, and to be perfectly clear it could have been as little as 3 dmg and in the scope of things how much is that when the widow actually headshotted them to death.
don’t get me wrong, tanks can kill it’s just not as often as you think compared to the burst ability of a dps.
like really are you scared of the winston that jumps in or the rest of the dive team that comes with him?
Honestly. Supports are not the strongest role per say, but the role that dictates the outcome of more matches than you’d realise.
If you are still stuck in gold OW1 and play Ana Mercy… you will lose more often than not.
what rank do you think they are really in? i think it’s fine to guess because they gave an answer to that that nobody was asking for.
and oh i want to hear your reasons because it’s probably gonna be pretty funny 
I am not really interested in ranks.
I get his take, but it comes from the lack of understanding whats changed in terms of gameplay.
ok, thought it would be fun and i guess they would be a good sport about it aswell, i mean you kinda have to be with a name like that.
I wouldn’t expect high high ranks, just from his comment. But I’ve also seen people say Mercy is overpowered… so people are just weird atm.