Watch every second for this video, ur welcome 
I hope ur proud of ur devs team Jeff Kaplan, very successful!
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Now your turn to make 2200-3500
Hereās a tip from someone who has climbed to master before.
Play the god damn game
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This advice is might be good for casual players who arenāt interested in climbing.
Playing the god damn game isnāt enough for competitive players. Climbing requires using oneās brains. Thatās what the creator of the video did. He basically exploited something with which he could gain above 50% win rate despite being only one of a team of six. Many other hard-carry players do the same. He climbed quickly because the win rate was consistently far above 50%. Even if climbing happens in a more fair way by improving oneās actual skills, it requires using oneās brains not simply playing more hours.
At the same time I accept that there are casual players who simply want to āplay the god damn gameā. Iād personally find playing brig too boring.
Itās funny how that advice involves playing the god damn game.
You could say that training and using oneās brain is important but the former is playing the game and the latter is what we in the gaming community like to call āgame senseā.
Something which is obtained by playing the god damn game.
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Simply playing it isnāt enough. One has to spot his own mistakes and correct them. For some people this almost never happens when they try to skill up alone. In my opinion game sense is much more difficult to develop than other simple things like aiming.
Gamesense (compared to basics like aiming) is significantly easier to understand by first watching a few videos from pro players who show and explain the most important things. Finding some those things out alone can be very difficult and extremely time consuming. If someone knows the most important things then playtime can be spent much more productively (practising good strategies instead of trying to find them) by building the less important things quickly around the important āskeletonā (that has been learnt from the best players).
There might be some players who could make it to grandmaster just by playing for some reason (naturally good skills, experience from similar games, boost from friend, luck, whatever) but statistics proves that most people never get there. There are things that make the genuine grandmasters outstanding and that is knowledge and good execution, not more playtime. Some masters played only a few hundred levels, some silvers/golds are around level 2000.
Exploiting the system is the best way, always been. Plenty of people party with their lower ranked friends for easier games and thats only one way to cheat the system.
GM here I come!
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i shouldnt feed the trolls i know, but time played does not equal skill. if you play in the same low rank and not vs better plaers you will not improve.
if you do not try to get better you will not improve
if you do not put your self into a higher level uncomfortable position you will not improve.
if you where an adult playing vs toddlers in a sport youād be the best on the team but no matter how many games you play vs toddlers you would never develop the skills for higher level play
interesting that you hide you sr and your account is under level 500.
This applies to many areas of life not only gaming. Time can be used in both effective and ineffective ways.
This sounds true in theory but itās a falsehood.
Each rank has itās own nuance which you have to understand. Players in silver play like silvers not like masters, thatās why listening to points made by pros only works if youāre listening for a select few things that work in every rank ( skill match ups for example).
For the sake of argument lets say that this āāskeletonāā of game knowledge are the h omo sapiens, the latest and the greatest.
(h omo is apparently a banned word which I find hilarious)
This skeleton wasnāt formed in a single day, it was formed after millions of years with each year the animal adapting to their new surroundings.
Think of it like this, if one of the Hominidae of the past acted like we do today do you think that it would be successful ?
It would most likely fail as those surrounding him didnāt create the environment needed for the humans of today to thrive in.
Of course Iām not saying that you canāt speed up your ranking but again this is done at onceās own pace.
Yes, because there will always be a select few who are better than the rest.
Yes, those people are talented thatās for sure and while itās true that there are people with extraordinary amounts of time in the game, I find that these people usually donāt āāplayāā the game, they spend time in the game but they donāt actually play the game.
Iāll also have to mention that when I say that you should play the game I donāt solely mean that, playing games involves reading the rules and adapting to them. What you describe is people spending time in the game but not playing it.
Do you always call someone with a different viewpoint than you a troll ?
Yet despite that people still rank up somehow
Eh, anecdotal evidence but my first 200 hours in the game say otherwise.
Which you do how ?
By buying an account with a higher skill level than you or playing a hero that youāre not good with ?
Both those wonāt make you improve as the game puts you against people of equal skill.
Hereās the thing, thatās why we have a ranking system. The moment that adult wins, heāll go up to tweens and so on until eventually heāll go up against other adults who have the same skill as he does.
I mean your profile is private as well 
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Do you always call someone with a different viewpoint than you a troll ?
i call people that are loud and obnoxious and that phrase their view with the intent to trigger a response a troll.
200 hours in this game, you are just a baby, so its understandable that you have no idea what you are talking about.
people most often rank up slowly and only a few divisions then plateauing from ājust playing the gameā
yes i hide my rank for a few good reasons, but i donāt go round telling people to git gud yet show no level of mastery in the game with next to no play time either. what you can see however is that i have over 3k hours in this game. everything i said is true of me and my play time, and is common in most of the hundreds of people i have played with and friended.
i put the vast majority of time into this game climbing little. that least 2 seasons i found a team with couching staff and a few top 500 players to practice with and i have improved more in that last few hundred hours then i have in 2.5k hours of dicking around.
After reading this post Iām safe to assume that you are a troll ?
Read what I said, not what you wanted to read.
And then they seemingly pass that stage after understanding for themselves whatās keeping them there.
So now game time matters ?
Also I can send you pictures of my last 11 seasons in the game if you want to see them that badly.
Youāre not replying to my comments youāre replying to yourself, please do the former and not the latter.
Dicking around is the key there.
In my opinion anyone can make his own way into master or gm if that is important for him and he improves himself in an smart way, not simply playing the game. There are different ways to do it and sometimes a luck factor too when it comes to speed of ranking up. For most people upranking is simply not that important and/or they simply want to uprank without actively learning. They ājust playā casually.
I think you are a troll because your advice is very vague and can be interpreted in many different ways even if your intention wasnāt trolling.
Here is your original advice: āHereās a tip from someone who has climbed to master before. Play the god damn gameā
This translates roughly to the following for many people: Iām rich, and I know you also want to become rich. I donāt tell you how I became rich or perhaps donāt even know it, but just continue living your life as youāve done so far and youāll become rich.
Iāve played about 400 levels without entering competitive or learning from articles/videos. I havenāt gained much experience after level 100 but reading articles and watching some videos taught me very important things in a tiny fraction of the time spent on 400 levels.
This.
This is why I think itās super difficult to break out from below 2500SR. Iāve played only 2 seasons (current one is the 3rd) but climbing at 2000SR is super difficult for many reasons (would be long to list my assumptions here). Iāve however bought an alt account to learn genji and I was placed platinum in competitive where I do well with my mains (with whom I still couldnāt climb around 2000).
Because of the previous reasons I bought a 3rd account to learn genji and kept the 2nd account for platinum gameplay.
Climbing can be very difficult even if someone is actively investing in it. In my opinion itās difficult to consistently reach above 50% win rate as one of a team of six without being significantly (not only a bit) better or without exploiting either an imbalance in game mechanics or some commonly committed mistakes at lower ranks (this latter thing canāt be done easily with any hero and actually requires theoretical knowledge best learnt from better players).
What is the difference between ādicking aroundā and just āplaying the god damn gameā?
Thatās not playing, thatās mindlessly doing something.
Again like the commentator above you do you think that anyone with a different viewpoint than you is a troll ?
So instead if I said āāHereās a tip from someone who has climbed to master before by simply playing the game and enjoying myself. Play the god damn gameāā
I know that this falls back onto the problem but the original point was that you you need to play the game rather than trying to see how someone else at a higher skill level than you plays the game
At least thatās what it turned into after pros/better players were mentioned
I donāt want to sound rude but if you donāt play comp than you canāt become better at comp.
My advice only applies to someone who is playing ranked were people organise their thoughts just a tad bit
This is a problem with mmr, as your first season impacts your following seasonās rank a lot if you donāt put time into changing it.
Theoretically speaking the game is supposed to put you in games with opponents of equal skill which should after enough matches always give you a 50% win rate.
You are again using words interpreted in many different ways. Your interpretaion of āplayingā most other players interpretation of āplayingā is very different in my opinion. This is why I said that one has to use his brains to rank up (with specific examples) and I didnāt simply use the āplayingā word alone.
A rich person could also say that living the way average people live is just mindlessly doing things, while his (the rich personās) way of living isnāt. But both can be called living, although they are very different. At the same time many casual/average people might be OK with not being rich. For this reason using the word ālivingā isnāt useful when someone wants to tell how to become rich.
I previously explained why I think you might be a troll, but I donāt know if trolling is you intention. However your advice was definitely not useful. You can also look up the definition of troll using google, donāt have to ask me about it.
Learning with the help of someone with higher skill is always significantly easier. Not only in OW but in many other cases in life. Itās a separate topic that probably not too many masters want to spend time on coaching low skilled lazy players who expect others to spoonfeed them. But there are good videos and articles from those skilled players or narrators who enjoy teaching and sharing their knowledge and ideas.
People have different goals on their mind, for this reason the definition of āenjoyable gameā is also different. (Huge source of conflict in QP.) Some of those who want to rank up might enjoy only ending the day with a higher SR. Some casual players simply want a tight enough good match (let it be win or loss). Some casual players want to rank up without upskilling (bound to be stuck and frustrated). Some players (casual or pro) enjoy only winning (which is impossible). Etcā¦
Many of those people are bound to be unsuccessful mostly because of lack of knowledge. Which also leads to less enjoyable gaming experience. There are times when I simply solo Q for QP, but I have very low expectations because I know how it works. For this reason Iām not frustrated and enjoy it more than those who never thought it trough and have unrealistic expectations.
It isnāt about me. The number of people stuck in silver/gold/plat is high. Iāve seen a lot of player profiles with 5-10 seasons stuck at more or less the same rank.
Iām personally not serious about ranking up but played 2 seasons at 2000SR and 1 season on another account in platinum around 2700-2800SR (about 30 hours or more than 100 matches each). I donāt care about my rank but have some experience and also some assumptions how certain things work and I enjoy analysing these situations. Iāll probably try to have fun with learning hard-carry tactics etc. But I donāt care if I donāt succeed, I might get bored and decide to spend my time on something else than OW.
Thatās the theory. In practice you might have to be significantly better than your team mates to be able to reach more than 50% win rate to climb as one of a team of six. At lower ranks itās even more difficult because most people have very patchy skillset and high inconsistency (below 2500SR) so you have higher chances of being in a team of incompatible players. Each player might be good in the right team/environment, but a bad combination together. This happens more rarely in platinum in my experience. The only way to avoid it is very painful manual team building process that most people are probably lazy to do most of the time (myself included). They either use LFG to play with random players without careful filtering/testing or just press solo Q.
I suppose that me specifying what I meant wasnāt good enough ?
What do you mean use oneās brain to rank up, doesnāt everyone use their brains to do stuff ?
The comment above was made for two reasons, one was to show what a troll post looks like and another was to show my confusion of your confusion of the word play even after having had it specified.
Ever heard of āfalling into routineā, when one gets older they progressively do less and less things in life. Doing the same thing over and over again with no real reason other than it being a routine. Playing a game can become a routine but at that point you arenāt playing the game youāre just sitting there wasting time.
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''Make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. āā
Your definition seems to be different which is why Iām asking
Thatās not what I said I said
Youāre saying that being taught helps people, what Iām saying however is that watching someone doesnāt help people. Two very different things that you are mincing together.
Yes, because they find them lazy because ā¦
Youāre repeating what youāve said earlier. My reply is above
That last one is an unimaginable small minority.
Have you ever heard someone say that they want to rank up but not get better because I havenāt. If you are interpreting their actions for what they are thinking than youāre doing it wrong
So far youāve mentioned about the same person but from different view points. Someone who is competitive.
I donāt know what youāre referring to.
Youāre taking my words out of context.
Iāve said this before but again thatās the mmr system.
The law of averages man. Your bad luck is as likely to average out as much as someone elseās.
Of course it doesnāt feel that way but thatās how it is.
Of course there are a few poor sods who are a lot of matches away from that statistical average due to poor luck, something that they canāt do much about.
If they are too lazy to LFG then they must not be that committed to ranking up. This group of people we arenāt talking about. We are talking about people who want to get to higher rank.
Some people call this playing in āautopilotā mode. Playing based on reflexes and usual reactions without strategically thinking.
I never thought I was unlucky or unluckier than other players around the same rank. At the same time I found a very effective way (careful team building and testing) to be able to have win streaks but Iām not interested enough in climbing that way. I found it too boring and unsatisfying and Iām here to have fun, not to grind for a number that Iām not overly interested in. I have better ways to have fun in OW.
No one knows how the matchmaking system has actually been implemented and how fair it is when it comes to climbing. Having a personal rank which is based on the results of a team of 6 is already suspicious. Couple this with the MMRs that are said to be sticky.
Having ranks for distinct/stable teams would make much more sense. However, most players are loners/casuals and uninterested in building and maintaining a stable team, itās a personal badge what they want. In my opinion this system is a serious compromise between what makes sense, and what is sellable to loners/casuals. In a complex game like OW a single number to measure skills is a huge oversimplification. The relation between the number and skillset is somewhat loose and situational. The MMRs are probably hard to modify to make the system more stable. For this reason becoming a little bit better might not be enough to climb. At the same time becoming better enough to climb might not be possible by playing at the same rank.
Letās assume Iām a tryhard and I can climb a lot towards master by finding and exploiting a loophole (not impossible in a complex and imperfect system like this). This will not only make me a higher ranked player, but gives me actual experience and insight about how gameplay looks there. Something some lower ranked people circling around a low MMR might never be able to experience. (For example I learnt a lot after being placed in platinum on my alt account.) Having a higher ranked friend for training can also be a huge advantage. Or something similar. Simply solo queuing for competitive might work for some, but in my opinion it is a very ineffective way both to uprank and to actually improve skills after reaching a plateau at that rank.
Itās actually been explained extensively by the devs. Iām not going to bother fishing up those posts but it probably wonāt take long to google
So all competitive games ever (were you can play in teams).
Either way all of what you wrote has gone off track so far that there is no point in me replying to it.
The devs will never talk honestly about the imperfections of the system and the severity of those for various reasons.
In some games player roles are less specialised (e.g.: in quake and CS everyone has the same abilities). In some other competitive games itās 1v1. Those games are more suitable for having personal ranks. Trying to climb with various heros and being dependent in so many ways on 5 other players makes personal ranks much less reliable.
At least we agree on something.