Just recently got out of silver for support in comp on console and I was duoing with my friend. I was immediately put into a game of 5 plat and one diamond on the enemy team while we had 4 plats and 2 golds. We completely lost due to a massive imbalance in the ability of the team. Blizzard said there would be longer queue times for more balanced games yet I waited 10 minutes for that atrocity
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Average SR would have been roughly similar so it isn’t a match making issue. They would have just had a bigger gap between highest and lowest rank than your team.
The skill difference between gold play and low diamond is very nominal. It is usually just better awareness and coordination higher up
Not sure what comms are like on console, if its anything like other console games… I feel sorry for you lol.
Comms on Xbox at my rank are non existent except in parties with your friends. Problem is I only have 2-3 friends that play ow and Im too low sr to play with one of my friends on his main role. It’s just so annoying because the only way to properly play comp well at low ranks on console is with friends
Sadly it is the same on PC.
Unless you can adapt to the chaos and bend it to your advantage more often than not, solo queue is a slow adventure.
Playing with friends is just more fun.
The difference between gold and diamond is night and day, as a mid diamond dps player, if you put me in any gold game I would decimate them, it’s like putting a GM in a diamond game, the team with the GM player probably has a 75%+ chance of winning.
The problem is resting all of your self worth on your SR.
On this account, I peaked 3300 but this season I went as low as 2700, did I get worse? Am I a worse player because my SR dropped? Nah, just had a few unlucky games. I played more and now I’m back up at 3200. Some games are unfair.
Your main tank could be drunk, you could have a sym 1 trick thrower with 15% winrate, you could get a GM smurf 3stack on the enemy team. So much can go wrong when you solo queue.
Play the game for what it is, try to improve every week and look at your performance week by week rather than game by game
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SR isn’t used for matchmaking, MMR is. That value is hidden (and there are two separate MMRs for QP and Comp). That MMR is quite volatile. If it was visible, and on the same scale as the SR, you could see a loss/gain of 500+ within a few matches.
So what probably happened: the 2 golds had a few good games, and the MMR of them is currently more in plat. The diamond, on the other hand, might have played badly the last few matches, and so his MMR dropped to something mid plat.
You can see that effect in action for yourself: if you’re currently in low gold, and have a few good matches, you might see more Plats in your team, if you play worse you might see more Silvers. You probably would need to play alone to see that though, because in a stack the average MMR of everybody is used instead. When you play well and your groupmate plays a bad match (or vice versa), the average MMR doesn’t really change.
MMR is for QP and arcade. SR is for ranked.
They do not have a hidden MMR for ranked. You only have the 2 ratings.
I used to think so as well, but actually MMR is used. I’ll try to find the dev post again, for now, this will have to suffice: What is the difference between MMR and SR - #2 by Knighthood-21706 - General Discussion - Overwatch Forums
Also here’s a professional coach mentioning the hidden MMR that is used for matchmaking: He reached his goal 3 days after the session (Reinhardt) - ioStux Professional Coaching Session - YouTube
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Mate you really need to double check your posts with google at least because most of the things you are dropping are 100% wrong. Point by point:
It is an issue. MMR is not just throw people with Average or similar team rating and go, that is QP. In Competitive mode you should NOT have people with 800 SR difference. That is not good balance. Period.
Absolutely false. I am a high plat DPS and after a bad streak with some friends they put me vs low golds and i OBLITERATED them. The difference in every single aspect of the skills in the game is palpable.
OOF … yeah they do.
In fact you have an internal MMR and an SR for Competitive. When those 2 values are too far away, you see big gains/losses. Thats done since 2016 to prevent boosting/deranking etc. Check previous comment.
You don’t understand how averages of 6 people, with a 1000sr gap rule work.
Also, if you are high plat, then like me you are bad at the game.
Maybe you should work on that.
And also if you were so smart, you’d know that the hidden MMR is what they use for match making in QP… But not ranked. You are right that they use it to calculate your gains/losses per match, but not for ranked match making, and as this is a post about the fairness of match making your point is utterly irrelevant.
But then again, I expect some counter argument where you deliberaty misuse things and troll away. Which is why your posts are set to hide notifications… You talk waffle.
Damn dude you are on a roll on wrong claims again.
The 1000SR gap is for the party, for stacks. You can get people more than 1000SR apart in the same game and that is the issue. Ive played games with 3100 supports and 1900 tanks. Again, get your facts straight before posting.
Also, yoiu are low gold, you cant tell anyone to “git gud” , specially when you clearly lack a lot of knowledge in areas of the game like you are exposing right now. Great claim right here tho …
What? 
You ONLY gain or loss SR in ranked, how would they use the internal MMR to calculate gain/losses anywhere else? 
BTW, having someone on “ignore” or “hide notifications” and still answering to their posts/responses is pointless, you cant even follow your own actions right there.
Research before posting nonsense, you are spreading misinformation and you already got proven wrong 3 times, at this point is really weird.
I never said anything about MMR. Just that that use it to calculate your +/- SR.
I thought the MMR changing was obvious and didn’t need spoon feeding. Then again, you like to assume.
By the way, ignore only hides the notification. Your nonsense is still there to see. But you’d know that.
The matching system is no longer fair.
But this guy Nightwing by some reason believes it is and on every post anyone complains about this he is like - it’s ok. For one player he even wrote - ignore him, he is banned now because he complained too much.
Wow, why do you do this? You don’t want Blizzard to change it ? If they don’t more people will feel so depressed to decide to not play, but give a sad feedback or quit … and you get what possible gain of this?
i’m <500. i’ve been <500 since season 8.
i lost 8 games against the same Rein/Ana duo (level 30 and 32) who dominated and won.
don’t tell me that this is normal for bronze and good match making
The match maker is working.
If the system thinks they are are match they are in your lobby.
People can manipulate their MMR and SR.
But the match maker doesn’t know that.
The match maker is working fine.
The players playing the game are the ones manipulating it to their advantage.