I mean… Even besides her stun her heal button makes these 2(genji-tr) useless.
“not picked in owl argument” is fine, but since she got released genji/tracer see no play in owl, because both team knows, if tracer/genji gonna be in the game another team gonna pick brigitte and make these heroes have 0 impact on the game.
I playing this game since season one, peaked 4300 sr with widow/tracer/d.va
I hate the fact that i’m forced to play widow/hanzo(expc bcos i hate this hero :O) now. Some games i still can play heroes like tr/genji, but once i kill a support he switches to brigitte gg wp D:
Noone hero in the game doesn’t make half of roster unviable, even pharah on her own.
Worst thing is blizzard wont do anything about this hero, besides increasing cd om stun by one sec which is obl is not enought D:
Sorry for ranting on my broken englishhh, but i feel like i had to do it somewhere. I really like this game, even now in this season(enjoying new sym really :O), but i h8 beign forced to not play hero i have 1000+ hrs on, because there is 0 outplay i can do
If you are this high you must know that Moira is not very viable up there. Her skill ceiling is very low and she doesn’t provide something uniquely powerful like Mercy does, also better opponents just destroy her.
Moira is more of a low level players’ crutch than a counter.
Moira in my opinion good hero i can call counter of genji/tracer. She doesn’t one shot them, but can kill them. She win most of the duels, but they still can outplay her, and it’s kinda fair(even tho moira has favor)
She is not viable because zen/mercy i still op, but i wouldn’t call her weak, i think she is perfectly balanced hero, just not as good as mercy/zen. And she see play in 4-2 comps, but in 3-3 she not needed of course.
Other supports like Brigitte and Ana are similarly not as strong as Mercy/Zen but even before the buffs they were picked much more than Moira at the higher levels. Why? Its simple, her damage is a complete constant and there is no way for you to improve it. So naturally she works best against opponents who cant aim and falls off completely against a competent opposition.
A hero with such a low pick rate is laughable to be called a counter.
Because moira has no range or mobility to support dive, that’s it. When moira got released we tried her out in dive with my team, but that’s only one reason why she couldn’t be played. She surviving a lot, but not doing much for a team. Kinda selfish pick in terms of default 2-2-2 comp.
Still in RANKED i believe she is always a good pick, just like hog and other heroes i can call “selifsh” D:
For example if u are getting destroyed at zen, it’s ok to switch to moira/lucio for survive in ranked. But brig is better at this one of course (:
Moira is not good in dive as i said, that’s why she see no play.
Brigitte is not good in dive aswell, but she is strong enought to force both teams build their team comps around her.
As i remember she was played on kings row/controll center.
But after people realized that mercy is still good and res on 600 hp target is strongest thing in the game everyone forget about moira D:
I think the best map for her is that part of lijang tower where the point is in a close room with a ceiling and tight corridors around. Even when dive was all the rage pro teams were routinely picking zarya+rein there.
No they weren’t enough to counter Genji/Tracer. These two were uncontested for a very long time and while these 2 heroes are good against them they’re not exactly hard counters to these heroes. Sure in a vacuum scenario these heroes are excellent against these heroes but team synergy between dive tanks and something like a discord orb just nullifies that effect. Brigitte was an excellent addition as a counter to dive in general that was needed.
Both Genji and Tracer are still top 5 DPS heroes instead of being the topdogs so these changes to the game have been pretty much perfect for them.
Moira win every 1-1 with genji if she has her ball on, and lucio has same damage with genji, he can easily kill genji 1v1 O:
Of course they are not a heroes which make genji swap off, but good moira/lucio can make let’s say genji to swap off. Any brigitte, can make anyhow skilled tr/genji to swap off, feels a bit unfair :? Even junkrat has more chances on killing pharah, than tr/genji on killing brig for example.
Was the reason of dive, not genji/tr. D/va winston still played on maps like gibraltar, but instead of genji/tr now we see wm/hanzo D:
Is this a good thing? Do you enjoy playing vs snipers when game decides by fact who have better hanjo :?
Is this a good thing that let’s say soldier-cree literally unplayable because of the snipers now?
In dive meta post d.va matrix rework a lot more heroes were viable, expc in ranked.