What are some other ways of saying "gg ez"?

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You would lose your money then xD but that’s up to you:p Which stats in particular did you look at?

I’ve already said what I’m “lacking” in terms of not being top500 or GM, I know I don’t belong there. But how can you exclude the luck of getting equally skilled players as teammates, when they CLEARLY are not. I know for a fact they are not on the same skill as me when I see them play. If a game is as heavily based on having a good team as in this game, then that obviously is a huge part of the equation, higher than you make it sound like.

Good on you, you have reached the worst state of the game, and it’s not an easy climb out of there, simply because there is a luck element to whether your teammates are competent or not. I’ve been dia as both tank and healer, but seeing as I don’t really play ranked alot anyways, this dips up and down based on what my placement teams are like.

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Reach? I will never get to those games in ranked with my current ability. No I was a plat player that filled in for a friend in scrims. There is no SR gained or lost. I just had a few afternoons seeing how coaches worked and how teams worked. (I was doing data analytics for them, and was the only person available)

Stats… lets look at your Soldier (because you’ve played roughly the same games as me 11 to my 8 and we are roughly the same SR). (i will only looked at ranked because QP is a mess).

Accuracy - similar (you 38% - me 40%)
Damage - similar (you 19,889 per 10 - me 19,930 per 10)
Eliminations - similar (you 27.18 per 10 - me 30.22 per 10)
Critical Hits - similar (you 5% - me 6%
Final Blows - similar (you 11 per 10 - me 13.67 per 10)

Zarya
We are roughly the same again, except you have better average energy and accuracy. (which reaffirms my belief that my bubble management needs a lot of work). then again I have played 50odd games on Zarya to you 7 so could be some flattening out, but I would guess you are just slightly better on the hero than me.

I am very much Plat, and have to improve a lot if I want to move more. Your stats are pretty similar.

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I have no idea what “scrims” are, please fill me in on this.

Keep in mind though, the vast majority of my games are done in qp. Like with zarya, where you said I have 7 hours, this is but a fraction of my total of 194 hours. However, if you want the most correct stats in that regards, you should stick to only the current ranked season. That’s where you will see my current level of stats. Keep in mind I only have this one account, and all the averages add up over several years of learning. On soldier, I’m usually around 40%, as I am still getting used to his new way of shooting, compared to before where you had to burst fire in order to stay accurate. but sometimes, it’s spray’n’pray. Keep in mind that if you looked at “All competetive seasons” then you will also get stats mixed in there from way back when the game was still fairly new, and I still had tons to learn. So the stats will get diluted to a certain degree. Same goes with QP ofcourse. But fair enough.

In current season, those stats on my s76 is as follows with 2h playtime:

Accuracy: 38%
Hero dmg done(avg/10min): 10168
Elims(avg/10min): 22,51
Crit accuracy: 5%
Final blows(avg/10min): 9,11

I can’t see your current season ratings on the website, but if you add me, I’d be happy to, and you can see and compare as you like. Much more info ingame than on the website.

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Scrims are matches between 2 teams, like a friendly match in football. Done outside of the games match makers (ie in a custom lobby).

For stats, I am not looking at the Overwatch website. It doesn’t give any information. But feel free to add me if you want.

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I see, thanks for clarifying.

Then where did you see it? Overbuff?

Where and how?

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If you click on profile, you have the name and number required in the address bar.

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Exactly, couldn’t have said it better myself, thank you for getting it.

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It is still incorrect though.

You get good. SR comes when you get good.

Getting good in quick play isn’t workable because quick play games are garbage.

So you learn, study, and practice in the correct environment and you get good quicker. (unless you are not able to learn from what you do).

Now you can see SR as some important thing. But that will just lead you to getting mad when you lose, or getting annoyed when someone tells you it doesn’t matter. Either way at that point you’ve tilted… and tilting = defeat.

I have spent my evening playing in scrims, filling in on main tank as a plat. The rest of the players were around 4.0 to 4.2.

I got absolutely torn to shreds. The skill gap was f’ing huge, it is nothing like ranked. It is actually competitive. And guess what, SR wasn’t needed. Because it matters not.

The only people it matters to are those that need something to show off about, and the ones getting mad are the ones failing.

I see my victory in personal improvement. I love playing actual competitive matches, but ranked is all about personal improvement. It is a “team game”, but given that your “team” is completely random every time, you have to focus on personal improvement. The ability to gel with 5 other randoms is a skill. And if you get good and pop off in matches, people will back your plays.

No one likes the silver/gold player that is hard stuck and maulding at everyone else in their team.

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Wrong. You can carry on thinking that though.

Not just you, the other team mates too.

Again, wrong, I get, as you say, “Tilted” when the team isn’t doing anything, but then they listen, and change tactics, and win. So not necessarily a defeat. Getting “Tilted” doesn’t mean you stop playing well, you can play well and get “TIlted”.

Again, wrong.

Trying to say something? You have nothing better to do than to troll the forums 24/7.

What Agonath said was spot on. All you ever say on these forums is “Get better, improve, SR doesn’t matter” and you always forget that it’s a 6 player game. It’s mainly about team effort, than personal skill.

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Blame your team mates and stay in silver ( I am just going to assume silver, I have no clue or care)

It is a team game, but all you do is blame your team.

You need a team with you to win, but you have to get good and improve.

The team you have is RNG… You improving means improving everything, and knowing how to work around others is a big skill to learn.

But unless you are consistently popping off in nearly every game, you can’t blame your team for anything.

If you get better, you do more in a match, the more you do in a match the less your team has to mess up.

Take control of your destiny, remove as much of the RNG as you can.

But imagine thinking someone wanting everyone to be better players is trolling… that is pretty funny. Thank you.

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Oh you perfectly know what rank I’m in so stop pretending you don’t.

All I do… Ok then, clueless.

Oh you’re by far the most arrogant person on the forums, I’m done with you.

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I don’t, you just exhibit every trait I have seen in hard stuck silver players that I have encountered in the past.

If I nailed it then nice. But I don’t really care about that.

I took my self from bronze to plat. and tonight scrims in GM games (I was the only plat player, and shockingly no one flamed me when I messed up, even though I was the reason we lost every game).

We all know it is a team game, we all think we know what good comms are (from tonight’s experience I know that is very very wrong). We’ve played enough games that team work side of things should be second nature.

What we all need to focus on is becoming better players, if we all do that, added to our game experience then games become a lot more fun.

(genuinely though, speaking to the coaches, 99% of comms and strats you see and hear in ranked are utter garbage… the fact that they work sometimes is just negative reinforcement)

The arrogance of wanting everyone to improve, even if only a little.

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Well, I’m dia with both tank and healer, and was fairly close with dps aswell at some point. And ofcourse team has to take blame if that’s where the issue is. It’s not that hard to see when people are doing bad. Just because I can do great plays fairly consistently, doesn’t mean I should think of getting better if my team is dragging me down, and I’m fairly certain that is what Wolfex is talking about also.

Like this for example, you can’t work around with a bad player, and expect it to go well, as it would just be to allow him to drag everyone on his team with him down. Case in point, imagine you have a reinhardt on your team, and all he does is swing his hammer about, and charge solo into a group of 6 enemies laughing their heads off at this free-feeding noob, who doesn’t know when to, and not to charge? they kill him, and push in, now with maintank gone, and 5v6, it’s going to be fairly one-sided 90% of the time.
If I was really good and stopped them all, and managed to win against them even when odds are against me, then that should too prove as a point that I’m better than them, and adapt better, and thus, don’t belong in that SR. But this rein would just keep doing this over and over, and feeding them all, and putting us at a disadvantage. 1 player with a crucial role, that can’t do what he has to do, can pull down the entire team. That’s how much of a team-game this is. Same if a mccree/ashe/widow can’t kill a pharah, who doesnt’ even have a mercy on her. It’s a BIG problem, and there is nothing that can be done about it, really. Atleast not without sacrificing your own role, in order to compensate, which often puts you in a disadvantageous position, vulnerable of getting picked off yourself. The git gud thing is just like a constant in the background that should always be active, but this game is meant as a 6v6, as soon as those numbers change, or there is a 2v1, the 1 is really going to struggle unless he counters both of them and are REALLY on point with what he has to do, aswell as enemy not being very good at what they need to do. And charging in with that noob rein, would just mean a disastrous team-wipe every time you get back from spawn. So teammates really matters more than it seems like you give credit for.

Getting better is just something that comes, or you can practice more in other modes etc, to get a better feel for the hero.

But with a bad teammate, there is already a huge chance of defeat. Realistically speaking.

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Again you miss the point.

I’m not saying your team can’t lose you games.

I’m saying you have zero control over external factors (ie what your team do). So focus on getting good.

Chances are your games are at least 50/50 to get a team that clicks and one that doesn’t.

And even when you get one that doesn’t click and you lose… if you pop off you lose less… so get good and the effect of those games is reduced.

Sitting there blaming others for you playing badly is just embarrassing behaviour really.

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Pretty much everything you have said on this thread is spot on. :ok_hand:

:point_up_2: Each player makes a difference.

Some team mates running far ahead where I can’t protect them. Some team mates letting a Soldier freeshoot throughout the whole game and I’m calmly asking them to please kill the Soldier, but not listening, or just can’t.
DPS Moira not healing or using a single healing orb in the game, just DPS ones so having to rely on one healer. Plenty of situations that are out of my hands, but hey, LeArN aNd GeT bEtTeR.

Yup.

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But if you get good, pop off and lose this hypothetical game. Then you lose less of your precious SR.

Then when you win the next one, popping off again, you gain more of it.

You being better flattens out the RNG. Because you have no control over what others do, mistakes happen. And you will make just as many mistakes as your team mates. So work on them and be better.

“please kill the soldier”. If you are so into the TEAM… Maybe suggest a pathing that sends your whole team to him to take the space off him.

Killing the soldier might not be the counter. Simply nullifying the value he can find might be the option. But that could be the improvement you are seeking.

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Not the point, which is what we’re making, you STILL LOSE SR.

Duhh.

Oh a solider on top of a building, as a Reinhart, I’m gonna teleport up there :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: Oh might I add, the soldier had 0 protection, 0 shields, so no matter what position, he’d still be unprotected.

Oh a Solider killing everyone on my team all the time but hey, he’s not the problem.

It’s hysterical how you think one person can win the game on their own vs 6 people. “BuT ImPrOvE, iMpRoVe, ImPrOvE”. You live in dreamland.

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Oh. sorry.

Did you not want to lose SR when you are not good enough in that match to win?

Never said he wasn’t the problem. I am saying your map control was a bigger problem.

If you are playing Rein and can’t get there. Maybe consider one of the other tanks. Ball or Winston would be better to control the space he is taking.

Or play rush and go Rein Zarya Lucio Bap and run him over.

But that is all included in improving at the game.

I have never said win it on your own (although you are claiming this soldier is making you lose the game on his own…). I am saying that part of learning what you could have done better is knowing that map control is the biggest part of this game.

1 enemy dominating you from the high ground? Maybe because high ground is a big advantage. Go take it off him. No point blaming your team for anything there when you have made a big mistake yourself.

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Well if he switch as shield to counter because his team sucks can be just as devastating.

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Interesting tutorial.
Increase bot difficulty.