I really don’t think Brigitte is that OP, she has plenty of counters people just need to play them and counter her. She has no real range whatsoever so just pick her off with Pharah, Widow, Hanzo, Junk - even Genji can poke from a distance.
yeah that’s a valid point… If a hero was OP, it would be the pro’s exploiting Brig more than people in the ladder.
Brig’s pick rate in OWL as it is , pretty low.
Comp ladder uses Brig because people like her, or they wanna play with her. They don’t change heroes like the pro’s do. People are unwilling to change in the ladder and that’s pretty much why Brig’s popular in the ladder. Nothing to do with it being OP.
You need to stop comparing OWL with Competitive mode.
Rivah, if the pro’s don’t think she’s OP, what gives it validity when the pleb community thinks it is ? Brig’s popular in the community because she’s new, she’s easy to play, and hence it’s popular with players in the community. It has nothing to do with the OP factor of the hero.
I’ll give you an example… People at the lower tiers have called Pharah OP, and Sym OP, simply because they did not have any clue how to deal with those heroes. Like when Steevo ran Sym against bronze players, they were calling Sym OP… Does it make her OP though ?
I think also that heroes that require less mechanical skills will be picked more. Not because they are OP and bring a disproportionate amount of value to the team, but rather because they are easier for certain players to get value out of. But that you don’t need typical FPS twitch skills in this game is part of what makes it good.
Brigitte isn’t OP, she’s accessible if anything.
Exactly, and for this reason Brig’s popular across the ladder. People confuse that with it being OP, and that’s the funny thing.
Because the majority of people aren’t in the OWL . Because the OWL isn’t played on the current patch. Because her tool kit has so much utility unlike other supports. I’m not saying she is OP but she is a lot better than most heroes in game atm ( except hanzo ) , and i like the fact that she ruined the dive meta.
Exactly most people haven’t got the understanding levels of those people at OWL and for that very reason whose words would have a higher level of validity ?
An OWL player or the pleb community ?
The community is slowly figuring out how to play against a Brig now, and for that reason I have seen Brig being destroyed on so many maps in the ladder.
Even if OWL was playing on the exact same patch as the current one it wouldn’t make Brig OP. Infact it would only make her weaker than before considering the double nerfs she got.
You really don’t want to understand what i’m saying.
I’ll tell you the risk of what happens to a game when it’s tuned for the Pleb community. That hero would become unusable at the higher tiers of the game, and what happens when finally the pleb community figures out how to play against a Brig ?
Do they boost her only after that to make her viable in the higher tiers ?
Well picture this Temple of Anubis map, second point, you are in attack.
Enemy team has Brigitte , Symetra ( +shield gen) , torb , Mercy ( or Moira) , Orissa, Rein .
Now tell me what comp do you run to beat almost 6 400+ hp chars with a nearby spawnpoint (not to mention a ressurect).
Eddit sry miss calculated, withouth the hanzo/widow they can switch with torb.
I would pick Rein, Orisa, Bastion, Pharah, Mercy, Ana to deal with that cheese comp
And occasionally switch out the Bastion to get a flanker to go burn down there Sym Shield generators.
Torb, Brig, Sym all can be taken care by the Pharah who would have a Mercy pocket.
Sym’s shield generator is disappearing from the reworked sym so shield isn’t going to stack above armor.
Yea but if u run pharmacy they will have a widow or hanzo snipping your mercy and phara. And you still need to capture the point in a certain amount of time.
I’m not saying it is impossible but for most people it is really hard and frustrating to pass all those shields+ hp + armor + cc .
On Anubis there is so much cover, that the pharah can peak fire at the widow / hanzo.
Yes which is why Sym shield generator is going from the game. Burning shields you have a bunch of heroes great at it… Junkrat , Bastion (if viable), Higher rate of fire heroes like Orisa, Soldier… Plus now you have Brig to bash the shield down so you don’t have to fight prolonged sheild wars.
Anyway i’m not talking about future reworks , i’m talking about the current state of the game.
In the current state of the game an attack sym, brig can be attacked from range.
Bastion will just sit behind double shields and burn all the rest down.
Please test it out and let me know how much time it took you to capture the point.
I bet it would depend on how good your dps are at getting picks
But that team comp you mentioned is a funny one… They would get stomped out so hard at least at the higher ellos
shield, stun, +50 armour, knock back cc, cleave damage. that’s an entire team of abilities inside one hero. It’s just in 1v1 though in actual games she’s a lot more useless because of her damage potential and healing, she’s really just a really good anti-flanker