well you can try that plan about 6 times and fail and lose the round, i know, i’ve done that plenty.
that’s why a measured approach is far better as it actually gives you impossible wins with a subpar team.
i’m not saying you should stand around and do nothing, i’m saying you can engage and disengage and hard commit when you’ve got the winning hand.
it’s far better to be able to disengage and only 2 dies than hard engage and 6 people dies and feeding your brains out making it much harder to breach the next go at it.
just common sense.
also there’s plenty of tanks that aren’t fast and they don’t operate that fast.
I’m not afraid of losing.
I have my plan, if it doesn’t work, that on me and so be it.
But I enjoy how I play.
You but me in a bunker comp and I become disinterested, disinterested people don’t try.
Get a lucio and simple call “3-2-1 speed to x”
You seem like the type of player that over thinks. You have to be careful, if you think too much about it you are in danger of never doing it. I’d rather someone tries to make the play and fails.
yeah but there’s clearly a difference between using your brain and not at all.
tell me how many times have you seen somebody rush in willy nilly with NO plan and expect everything to work out.
sure you can win sometimes by catching the enemy off-guard by doing this but that’s not at all a good way to do it.
if you get a lucio and is able to coordinate to the degree that he’ll count down his speedboost and your entire team is with you, that’s a plan at the very least and that will work a lot of the time because it’s an actual strategy, but how often does that occur?
i’m happy i have a support that heals me at some point during the game, that’s the level of difference where i play.
most people don’t play around the basic assumptions where i play,
i don’t care really all that much i’m just happy if a support decides to heal me for 100 hp atleast in a game or somebody is on the ball enough to stun/sleep a tracer or a genji basically so it’s not allways me.
I use my brain. Decide that we need to go, and we go.
Group up and go. No hesitation. No faffing about. Just go.
If you play passive, I will thank you for your efforts and remove you from my group after the match. Playing passive is boring and I don’t play video games to be bored.
You can keep analysing and comping up with hypothetical scenarios. But what if they didn’t happen. Actually don’t answer that, I don’t care. Don’t really care for your hypotheticals either.
Just go fast, have fun, queue again.
you can play aggressive and non-commital.
btw i don’t get how this became such an off-topic thing when all i asked was why dps don’t peel.
the simple answers i would guess my self is that
A. they don’t care.
B. they don’t think they should.
C. they don’t know how to do it.
what do you think?
A. they don’t need to.
That is the only answer. Stop blaming your DPS for your own positional mistakes.
DPS are not often in a position where they can peel for the backline mate.
Due to positioning and timing, the other healer or the offtank can peel way way way way more often than the DPS.
DPS do help when they are near for sure but they are usually near the main tank in the front or flanking way beyond that.
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why are you blaming me? it’s not like i am the one who’s dying.
i’m losing fights sure but that’s after everybody else dies first.
That’s cute. Everybody dies first…
Which to mean implies one of two things.
- you are too good to be killed early.
- you are playing so passively you are not taking any risks and not in a position to be killed. (and thus having little impact on the fight meaning your team dies first)
i am the frontline, i push in and everyone dies behind me, how is that my fault? i can’t walk in backwards can i?
Well if you are going to int. Of course you will lose.
how is that inting? you can’t int when you are going in with your team and they fail to respond to a dive in the backline where i am not even looking because i am the frontline and i have to keep my focus there so we don’t lose the frontline.
really you are just here to pin all the blame on me for something i have no control over which is bs and you know it.
Aren’t you just trying to pin all the blame on your team.
Think that is worse.
You could just swap to Hog and play with your back line.
no i am not, just asking why dps don’t peel for the backline when i am not able to.
sure i can sit and wait all game for the dive to happen and respond to it myself but that means i will never push in, so it really doesn’t matter what tank i pick at that point.
and as you said, it’s better to be aggressive.
it happens every game, i push in and somebody dies behind me to somebody diving them. 100% of the time, that’s why i find it extremely easy to play winston because i can do that too and win constantly, but if want to play another tank that doesn’t do that i just lose to that same scenario myself.
Still sounds like you are blaming others.
It is. But not inting. That’s just bad play.
Ultimately, you are asking if your DPS should be peeling for the backline… The answer is no. It would be the off tanks job.
If it isn’t happening and you are getting dived, it means the gap between the front line and the back line is too big. Ideally, if you are playing Monkey Zarya, the Zarya will play closer to the backline (hopefully they have picked Ana Brig).
watching a game now. Monkey, D.Va, Echo, Tracer, Ana, Brig. both teams mirroring
Brig does not leave Anas side.
D.Va hangs about with the supports and only aggresses once the Monkey jumps.
That way if their supports are dived, Brig whip shots away and the D.Va can DM and shoot stuff.
Like me you are gold… I doubt your enemy is doing skilled coordinated dives. So it will just be poor positioning costing you and the rest of your team.
Anyways. No need to reply. I am off. Bye.
it’s honestly not that big of a gap, i’ve turned around just to look at what it is that’s happening and why i am losing to divey characters, there’s 3 things that happen.
supports not peeling because they are busy keeping themselves alive.
dps not being there or are there but completely ignore or fail to respond to the threat.
off-tank only barely able to peel but not kill the threat in the backline.
and you’re right it’s not OWL, i just am very tired of characters that gets to win for free because i don’t play winston 100% of the time.