Every time me and my friends play competitive together and we always get confronted: “can you make your voices 10% less gay?” “why do i always get the gay team mates?” “can you stop speaking less gay” there are other instances which aren’t considered offensive but make everyone uncomfortable “are you gay?” some may not find it as “offensive” but it’s not a question that matters or that should be asked as soon as we join voice comms. other times we get muted or get people leaving the voice comms because of us.
I usually don’t ever have the confidence to speak in voice comms when I’m solo queuing because I feel so insecure and unconfident about my voice and gives me issues such as social anxiety
i’m not even going to speak about “are you guys girls or boys?”
i personally think there should be more strict rules with homophobia as it’s so common both in-game and in real life
I am in no way homophobic. What I have always wondered is why sexual preference seems to affect how someone speaks. Overly camp people always make me sigh because… well, because I don’t get why campiness is a thing.
You like the same gender, no big deal, but why the flamboyance?
If you feel uncomfortable with people “joking” about homosexual people, then ask them to stop. If they won’t stop and continue intentionally, then they might be using it in an offensive manner.
That could be worth a report for abusive chat.
However, if you realize that they are using it as a complete joke and they intent no harm towards homosexual people, then just ignore them or mute them if necessary.
What if I don’t want to constantly mute people and want a good team to communicate with? Telling people to stop “joking” about homosexuality makes you feel anxious and uncomfortable. you wouldn’t understand.
Of course, I wouldn’t understand because I am not homosexual…
Plot twist: I am
Does it change anything? No, not at all! Everyone has problems and other people always joke about things you’re sensitive with, let it be your sexual interest, your religion, your ethnic culture, your hobbies, your character, your favorite hero, your everything. Don’t be a fool and think it only happens to (insert any group you want). It happens to everyone.
Now let’s get it straight: Either you shut up and ignore those jokes or you do something against that and confront the person.
It doesn’t matter if you feel anxious about it. If something is bugging you, you have to do something about it. Noone is going to do that for you.
And the fact that you wrote a post and complain about homophobia shows that you actually have courage.
If people tell you that you sound like a stereotypical jay man then it’s not homophobia even if they make a small joke about it or talk about it like it’s not much less asking whether somebody is a boy or a girl. Sure if somebody makes straight up homophobic comments by calling you a maggot with an f or something similar then you should report them and they’ll be banned/suspended/silenced because believe it or not the report system actually works in this game. Blizzard is strict when it comes to these sort of things so if nothing is happening from their behalf then it’s probably just between your ears. Catering around your feelings isn’t something you should expect in OW or life in general because that’s not how communication works.
It’s not your responsibility to confront these douches.
Sadly, it’s an issue with society at large, and likely it gets magnified in a game full of insecure little pimples. I do understand the frustration, and it IS against the rules and bannable, but I don’t think there’s much more you can do than either telling them “no sorry, I talk like this. Handle it” or muting them. If we end up in a game and someone acts like these a-holes I’ll gladly do it for you.
Because the N word right now is the worst thing according to the masses. Homophobic, misogynistic, other racial slurs? Whatever. You say the N word though and you are immediately target number 1 for pretty much everybody.
I agree with everything you say, except that this feels a bit too categorical. I think there are a lot of ways to try to make a difference, and to address this as general problem in a forum is one way. So nothing wrong with alerting people to their experiences.
I also like what you say about that everyone gets picked at, and it’s the will to abuse others that should be addressed primarily. But I think a completely valid way of doing this is by addressing the specific way that people try to abuse each other, i.e. for instance because they are gy.
Because saying things like “you’re effing gy” is abusing others. What I don’t get is that people who react to sjw people get so hurt about not being able to abuse other people, and call them hitler or totalitarians. This is like a fundamental paradox to me. “I’m so hurt because I’m not allowed to hurt other people, this is so wrong!”… I mean really.
That said, I don’t agree with the ways these so called sjw’s address these problems, trying to ban every word in the dictionary. But I’m totally ok with someone calling me sjw, apart from that, even though it’s supposed to be derogatory.
Only you think people bitching about sjw are hurt. There is no paradox , it’s more like people dont like when they can’t say things because someone can be offended and who decides what is “offendable” is of course “the victim” to the point calling someone a fag is derogatory to gay people no matter what . This post is useless , literally use a thing called mute button or shut up and report them , It’s easy , i have done that , solved all my problems
If you are being hurt hurt the other back. Insult the one who insults you, beat up the one who wants a fight. Giving offended people more power would basically suppress everybody else.
Wait, so are you saying that you should fight fire with fire?
If you Insult someone back, wouldn’t you be reportable for abusive chat?
It is no use to do the same foolish things as the other fool. You would have to take the consequences, too.
All you can do is to either ignore or mute the other person or to speak up and confront or report them. Any other action might be no use or even backfire to you.
Of course you are dependent on others, in this case on blizzard.
You bought the game and use their service. If there is a problem, you have to rely on the company’s support. So if someone is breaking the rules and you suffer from it, you can report them and the support is going to deal with it.
If you really want to take care of your problems yourself, then break the rules too and risk a penalty or stop playing the game so you’ll never confront that problem again.
I was talking more in general. When it comes to Blizzard and their games they have a tighter leash on things. In generic real world scenarios though we do have more freedom to express ourselves.
Ok so saying you are hurt may be a bit of a stretch, but you not indifferent either. To turn you’re own argument around, somehow it is really important for you to be able to call anyone a fag no matter whether it hurts other people or not. I mean i understand that someone being hurt is not in itself enough to make it wrong, but to use minorities in a derogatory way is more than an understandable reason to get hurt. I mean imagine someone finding out their sexuality, while living among people for which the norm is to use homosexuality is synonymous with something stupid, abnormal or deviant. Imagine trying to out yourself in that scenario. I mean sure, if that person comes out, and then the people around him is like “cool, let’s not then use fag like that again”, then i’d say everything is pretty much cool. But you can bet your ass that 99% time the same people turn against the one outing himself. So in sum, even though it’s not the “victim” who decides what is hurtful, not alone at least, neither is it you who can just get a cart Blanche to say what you want without any regards how it affects others.
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