Buff Spine crawlers

StarCraft II General
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This is the worst base defense in the game by far. The sad thing is, they are unchanged since 2010.

Its role should be to help vs early rushes or defend vs light harass.

Early rushes (proxy 2-4 rax marines, early pools with or without gas, zealot gw rushes, different types cannon rushes. Its useless

  • If you make it in a good defensive position, its too vulnerable because it takes too long to build
  • If you make it in a safe position and move later, you cannot do that because the burrow time takes ages.
  • The attack animation is too easy to dodge

Light harass (Hellion, mine, marine, dt, zealot). Its also useless.

  • Too easy to avoid
  • No dps

Some comparison too see how bad spines are:
--------------------------- Photon cannon --------------------- Spine Crawler
Health----------------------------300-----------------------------------300----------
DPS-------------------------------22,4--------------------------------18,9 + 3,8----
Cost-------------------------------150-----------------------------------150----------
Detector-------------------------Yes------------------------------------No-----------
Can target air------------------Yes------------------------------------No-----------
Build time-----------------------29-------------------------------------36------------

Also Spore crawlers burrow time is 4s while Spine crawlers burrow time is 9s.

Conclusion / My suggestions:

  • Buff Spine crawlers burrow time from 9 to at least 6s.
  • Nerf photon cannons build time from 29s to 36s (same as the spine).

Do it next patch. Amen.

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In your comparison you forget that you can heal crawlers with queens and reposition them. I think they are fine.

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You forget that you can heal cannons with shield batteries and bunkers with workers.

Reposition them? Can you read? I think not.
9s is the reburrow time which is useless. Its in the post above you. The whole post is about that you cant reposition crawlers.

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You can reposition them, but it takes time… As for shield batteries, they only restore shield, not health, where Spines can be restored to full armour. Spines also have 2 armour, cannons 1, I think. But comparing two units side by side is not enough - you never have a game where you will use only them in battle. Consider the supporting units - queens, lings, even ravagers.

Also insulting me about reading accomplishes nothing. do not be so salty about a game. Plus, Zerg is in rather good position overall, so zergs whining is beyond me.

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Crawlers can be healed much more effectively than other defences. I’ve seen a few pro matches even where the opponent would overextend just because they wanted to finish off a crawler and the next moment the crawler was full health