Tell him brother
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imo earthgrab totem shouldnât be able to pull out of stealth
Oh yes it should and you better believe it. 
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I meanâŚit should? If a shaman can detect where the enemy in stealth is located then them being rooted is a good reward for said shaman. Same way a hunter can pull out someone with ice/tar, and flare
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Why are you talking about a class you know nothing about?
You canât have vortex and aoe root.
No. Wildstalker does. Only 2 specs have access to wildstalker, the others have keeper of the grove, eluneâs chosen or druid of the claw.
This isnât a thing.
Youâre CCing yourself with mind control.
Only shadow & holy have access to stuns. Disc does not. Most of the time you donât pick the stun either way as a holy priest because it will cause DRs for people(making especially rogues rage whisper you for putting stuns on DR). You can thank blizzard for this because chastise doesnât instabreak now if you donât pick the stun, due to the damage for CC to break being changed.
Requires us to be in melee, which exposes us to CC.
Thatâs not what happens most of the time. They just place it somewhere, they donât know someone is there.
You do have a vortex and aoe root built for it from hero talents so plz dont teach me go check hero talents and btw i got alt resto dudu 2.2k which does exactly that so dont speak about a class hero talent you never played and know nothing about.
It is a thing in talents you pick that or the feather l2p.
Who cares? You are shown that you have utilities that others dont ever saw how priests play above 2.4k atleast ? Mind control ez extra CC for the rest that you have
Or requiers melees just to get to you , dont cry you have load of CC on demand we besicly gow no stun at all incap totem all walk away from it its not on demand / lasso is you being afk and kicked like your mind control but its our is the only one now imagine you had only mind control no stun on demand and yes holy also picks stun so stop trollingo , aoe fear is best CC and easiest to land ingame .
No, it is not. Body and soul and angelic feathers buffs your movement speed but they do not make you immune to anything. Why are you even talking when you donât know anything?
Again, if you didnât read: Wildstalker is available to 2 spec. Wildstalker is what gives vortex the aoe root. Other druid specs that donât have wildstalker available as a hero talent tree do not have it. So you canât say that druids have both.
Except you can move and go out of sight when you channel it, your team can damage the target. Priests canât move at all and the target canât be damaged except by their own team.
Yeah, no. The best CC in the game is cyclone. Psychic scream requires you to expose yourself to a ton of CC in order to get it off. Thereâs no way you can just run up to someone and fear them unless their team or they arenât paying any attention.
Thereâs literally no difference between picking the stun and just using normal chastise except you wonât put stuns on DR if you donât pick the stun, after they changed damage tresholds for CCs to break. As a plus, if you chastise classes(without picking the stun talent) that can break stuns they wonât be able to break the chastise because without the additional talent to make it a stun itâs an incap and thus stun break abilities donât work on it.
i said Shield that gives speed/1 sec immunity to anything[FADE] , as seperate thing⌠you indeed show you cant even read properly .
and actually good that you continued because i even forgot you got also holy ward that makes you immune to CC so here is one extra .
No one cares dude that its only for resto and feral both of them use it , boomies even have perma slow on you from shroom as passive effect from their sunfire aka perma earth totem slow on you.
Again , lasso is not a stun on demand lasso is a useless spell with 30sec cd that gets insta kicked , your mind control is the same except it has no CD and âYOU MOVE THE TARGET YOU CONTROLâ so your emphasis of âIn lasso you can moveâ doesnât work as its equal in that regard but somewhy has a CD when your mind control doesnât + you have load instant CCs and stuns , if we will sit here and count them you will be amazed to find out that you have x2 more the shammies have .
Clone cant be best CC in game as you have to hard cast it and it get get Grounded or spell reflected and its single target when AOE fear from priest on a team of 3 in arena without trinket wins the match as its unreflectable ungroundable and is done instantly as aoe.
This whole statement doesnât hold any weight as the sole reason besides the stun on chastise for holy priest was to dish out holy fire spams for insane damage + shorten your most strong instant heals cooldowns so chastise was used as a stun+CD shortener that made you spam your âWordsâ cds.
I also see no reason to continue this convo as i wanted to check your EXP to see if you even understand pvp and the problems of the classes in it but sadly you somewhy locked your profile , i have a feeling that you never passed 1.8k.
Good day trollingo.
Yes, it is the best CC in the game. It makes the target completely immune to any interactions beyond MD.
Why are you all standing in the same spot. Why are none of you stunning the priest and CCing them in turn before they fear? Priests are one of the slowest classes in the game, together with DKs & paladins.
Yeah, no. I am a duelist, on multiple characters. Including priest(as holy) & druid(as balance). Iâve played feral druid to 2.2k, Iâve played balance druid to 2.1k(almost at 2.2k as well). Iâve played rogues of different specs to 2.1k. Iâve played mages of different specs to 2.1k.
Yeah that explains a lot from your way of thinking and comparing hard casting spells to instant CC especially aoe CC.
Who said âWe are standing in same spotâ? if its melee they will stack on you themselves , and if you move to their healer they all will stack on you because you manipulate them.
Yes and thatâs the difference between instant CC and Hard cast CC to hard casts you simply react to by Kick/Ground/reflect/Holy ward/Los/âSTUNNNNâ/Silence and so on which is for âCloneâ , and your instant CC is requiring players to READ YOUR BRAIN and pre tremor (Which 90% of players wonât read) hope you understand that âEffect of CC and its implemintationâ are 2 different things just like comparing HoJ to a polymorp , which BTW none of them shamans have (Hex = CD not spammable hard cast and stun or any CC on demand doesnât exist besides micro CC"Root")
Sure buddy compared to enhance shams or any other you are faster with perma speed buff from shields and lets not get started with feather for 5 secs and 3 stacks or body and soul spams , anyway Holy priests atm hold the highest number of healers top rated in 3s so you have nothing to cry about you are Meta class atm together with paladins as healers.
No one cares those 2 are meta classes in pvp atm by their performance if you want to compare then my Ret paladins stays on target way easier then my enhance sham , ret is 99% ranged class with Freedom/x2 chargers/Hoj/perma slow from judge on target , which none of that enhance sham got besides 1 feral lunge which doesnât root or slow like rest in game + not a single on demand stun , and root totem that you cry about being âOPâ gets dispelled or freedomed or simply broken after 1 dmg ability and simply moved away from.
I think weâre done here, you donât know anything. Not even about the class youâre posting from. Literally on-demand aoe incap & ST stun that deals damage.
Then on top of that you have:
Which most healers canât even dispel.
âwe donât have any cc on demandâ
Get the hell out. Then on top of all this, you have a 12 sec CD RANGED interrupt. Other ranged interrupts in the game has 15 or 24 sec or more CD.
Is a complete meme.
Hmm, idk, its not that bad, but could be better Im sure.
Healing in pvp is sucks, and I guess, I just come back again for the last month. Theres no reason to play the whole season.
Until they not gonna change the Solo Shuffle healing rating and reward system theres no reason to play this clown fiesta game
If you didnât notice i am rank 18 , so saying to me i donât know anything about my class is kinda funny mr 2.2k , firstly learn what stun on demand is , lasso isnât stun on demand and above i explained how it is useless in pvp locking you from any action and getting kicked for no value output options as in comperison to stuns on demand like Hoj/Priest stun(Yours)/every class has stun on demand besides shamans/mages/locks(Kinda have with coil).
And yes incap isnât stun on demand it needs 1-2seconds before going off while being a totem with 5hp that gets killed rendering it useless and you simply walk away from it with normal move speed thatâs why no one picks it for arenas , i have no clue how you can compare it to stun on demand Hoj/shockwave/stormbolt/new hunter stun/intimidate/priest stun/hypoxia(DK stun) shall i even continue??
how you even compare Sundering as a stun when its not even a stun its incap effect its not even comperable to DKâs Frost blind because DKâs aoe frost blind incap holds for some dmg but sundering breaks from simple dot tick or auto attack , you are just indeed a troll.
Yes mr funny guy Hex isnât stun on demand its a polymorp hard casted with CD on it unlike clone/poly/warlock fear and so on if you even want to compare CCâs learn to understand the differences , and learn those word âEnhance is the only melee ingame that cant stay on its targetâ then learn the simple phrase âShamans dont have any stun on demand which is why they are compinsated with some Micro CCâs like Root/slow totemâ.
and yeah indeed get the hell out first get atleast top 50 then try to teach players in the forums about what is OP and isnât in PvP and before jumpin into CC comparison learn to compare them , Lasso=Mind control but with CD(Get that tatooed on you).
Means nothing when you say you donât have on-demand cc.
means nothing when you say incap totem = stun on demand / lasso = stun on demand , well if lasso is stun on demand then your mind control is stun on demand by that logic , even Mages polymorph is stun on demand as you count Hex as stun on demand you are just silly lil trollingo .
I mean, you say you donât have on-demand CC. You can press them at any point you want to.
So much for âhurr, im rank xâ.
Its not only me saying it is a fact shamans donât have any stuns on demand just like mages donât have simple as that there is no instant stun effect that you can continue your output after (Lasso=mind control same CC effect just with CD and roles reversed)
So plz learn the definition of STUN ON DEMAND not CC on-demand.
Sry i donât have Hoj or chastise/Psychic Horror
GL climbing the ladder instread of making 3.2k posts on the forums.
Youâre the only one that Iâve seen that says shamans donât have on-demand CC.
Then you refuse to acknowledge that you do in fact have on-demand CC, even after being linked examples.
Which is laughable.
You are more then welcome to watch Top shaman players or run by the shaman forums.
i acknowledge that a clown like you loves to change subject from âStun on demandâ to âCC on demandâ which sadly shaman also doesnât have as Lasso it needs to be channelable like mind control and you canât do anything besides getting insta kicked marking it as most useless Stun ingame .
Sundering only enhance can use also i wouldnât call it any CC as it breaks after 0.002seconds.
Better explain to me how you Considered Hex as CC on demand.
And second i spoke to you about Stun On Demand not CC on demand so move on .
Also i would highly suggest for you to quote whole santences and not only picking the 3-5 words for your own benefit to twist it as you see fitter for yourself , it makes convo look funny and hard to read wholly .
also you are more then welcome to roll over the shaman forums and read what shamans think about the useless stuns we have you can even google it here AI will help you " AI Overview
In World of Warcraft, some players who main the Shaman class are frustrated with the classâs stun abilities, particularly in PvP (Player versus Player) content. Their complaints stem from a perceived lack of reliable and consistent crowd control options compared to other classes. Specifically, the main issue is that Shamans often have to rely on conditional stuns like Earthgrab Totem or Ghost Wolf stuns, which are less effective than instant, targeted stuns or stuns with longer duration."
Ignore that AI wrote âGhost wolf stunâ it was removed from the game feral spirit from enhance used to have stun not anymore.
now ill just stop feeding you trollingus.
Do you have a hard time remembering what you posted?
(Hex = CD not spammable hard cast and stun or any CC on demand doesnât exist besides micro CC"Root")
You literally said you donât have any CC on demand.