I need some advice and tips on gaining better gear

[Gozash-alakir]

Easy gearing means you play less, which is detrimental to their game design.
If you’re not paying lots of money and playing everyday they’re not happy.

[Ryoshun-argent-dawn]

@Dejarous-draenor

Hell, we helped a friend out last night in a 16 and he had 56k (yes, 56k) health.

Aww thats nice

[Evilmendur-azjolnerub]

i think time is not the problem mostly.
wow is subscription based game, what that means is that, the longer you play, the more you need to pay. so if i need to spend time and sweat in dungeons while paying 12€ per month just to do that, that is just slavery with extra steps.
I dont even have good way to farm gold yet to pay for free subscriptions.

If somebody said “Hey in assassin greed, if you want good gear, you need to work for it”
in wow its like “if you want to have good gear, spend 12€ a month, find nice enough guild and active one at that for gear grinding, find the perfect set of armor and weaponry of level 470il and than you may enjoy the game as it was meant to be”
also pay for expansions.

[Sinaaki-doomhammer (Sinaaki)]

I recommend finding a community or guild to do stuff with. Add the people you enjoy playing with to your friendslist.

[Evilmendur-azjolnerub]

i think that is great idea because the only friend i play with is playing horde 9 out 10 of the time.
I solo most of the time and locked between grinding either mounts or rng gear.
The only enjoyment i am looking for is mostly getting ganked by horde members 24/7 and getting shadowlocked and stunned whenever it comes to pvp.

If i have the luck on finding a good guild, i will do that.
I am already in a nice guild but its semi-active, basically events are whenever.

[Rejuvithorn-2648]

@Sinaaki-doomhammer

I recommend finding a community or guild to do stuff with. Add the people you enjoy playing with to your friendslist.

That’s a great idea! Check out the guild recruitment page over on https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/recruitment/54 . It can’t be stressed enough that being nice, patient, and polite in the mythic groups will generate connections that can flourish into friendships.

While it does take a little effort to stay connected with these new people till a rapport is built and you start to do things together regularly, increasing your social circle is an excellent way to find like-minded folks to run with. You might even have real life friends who play that you didn’t even know about! Try announcing on your social media that you’re looking for buddies to roll with Maybe you’ll even find some folks you know who don’t play WoW (or game in general) who’re looking scratch that social itch. Be pro-active. It’s good to reach out!

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[Elbryan-the-maelstrom]

Upgrade your cloak to lvl 15 and do some masked runs, also there is always loot at the end of a M+ key runs no matter how many times you have done that dungeon.

[anon45611648]

Recently we had a topic that took a very different approach to a similar question, there is plenty of information available within this thread (with a touch of dramatics too!)

You seriously need to add more aggressive catchup

Never hurt to find a partner for that or two, just to be on the safe side of things Have few friends or a guildy greatly helps But not necesarry, they are soloable even in ~400 gear, you just need to carefully dance around them and some avarage situational awarness, not to aggro a patrol or anything Depending of the class, really But as you said: Both the War Campaign and cloak-chain, yes Even the Wrathion part in Blackwing’s is like that

Also I third finding a community or guild and reaching out to befriend friendly like minded players, this will make things far smoother and technically friends in numbers are stronger than ilvl!

[Zeleik-ragnaros (Zeleik)]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ES4RZbX72XB7wb3tV2Gp3NOxFoIopJEB93zaejGQjg/edit#gid=267799760

[Popgligor-kazzak]

Communities and guilds is where it’s at. It is rather sad - for all their attempts to make guilds irrelevant, Blizz has designed the game in such a way where being in a GOOD guild is literally the solution to all problems. But where in Classic you’re just finished without a guild, in Retail the need for a guild is much less obvious… but it is there and it is great. Be in a guild that organizes mythic runs, that has an active chat and community.

[Getamazed-quelthalas]

I haven’t TOUCHED dungeons/raids and I got my both mains to 450+ in a month after 8.3 release.

[Lilîith-silvermoon]

@Evilmendur-azjolnerub

i thought that getting decent enough gear would be simple but corruptions, trains, stats and multiple game modes.
This just leaves me wondering, how did the design team end up into this?

the design is very simple - it rewards people who play whole patch not just come in end expect to be geared in a week.

best proof are my +/-456 alts which have never even touched pvp , raiding or mythic +

[Lilîith-silvermoon]

@Popgligor-kazzak

Communities and guilds is where it’s at. It is rather sad - for all their attempts to make guilds irrelevant, Blizz has designed the game in such a way where being in a GOOD guild is literally the solution to all problems. But where in Classic you’re just finished without a guild, in Retail the need for a guild is much less obvious… but it is there and it is great. Be in a guild that organizes mythic runs, that has an active chat and community.

its not blizzards fault people dont want to join guilds.

its guilds fault people avoid guilds

to many loot hungry corrupted officers over the years screwed over people in guild - thats why so many people activly avoid guilds

[Popgligor-kazzak]

@Lilîith-silvermoon

its not blizzards fault people dont want to join guilds.

I don’t think so. There’s plenty of good guilds, but the game, especially with the dungeon finder, gives people this idea that they’ll be fine without a guild. You CAN technically get dungeons and raids without a guild, so why bother with being in one? Then this also makes guilds lazier, with their own founders treating it as a chat, not organizing activities or anything like that.

But all of that is a lie. If people want a smooth experience in WoW, they need to throw all of that out the window and realize you absolutely NEED a good, active guild, with organized dungeon runs, and set raid times.

[Evilmendur-azjolnerub]

I was thinking like “imma just open up the raid finder and find a quick raid in the raid/dungeon finder and beat znoth for quest” but people come and go from que rapidly and even if you find a match, nobody listens and everybody just keep dying and tanks leave.

[Lilîith-silvermoon]

@Popgligor-kazzak

@Lilîith-silvermoon

its not blizzards fault people dont want to join guilds.

I don’t think so. There’s plenty of good guilds, but the game, especially with the dungeon finder, gives people this idea that they’ll be fine without a guild. You CAN technically get dungeons and raids without a guild, so why bother with being in one? Then this also makes guilds lazier, with their own founders treating it as a chat, not organizing activities or anything like that.

But all of that is a lie. If people want a smooth experience in WoW, they need to throw all of that out the window and realize you absolutely NEED a good, active guild, with organized dungeon runs, and set raid times.

i have very smooth experience this expansion - each tier get almost hc raid itlv .

dont need guild for anything .

face it guilds are relic of past only usefull if you plan to mythic raid or do high mythic + keys

[Psjohly-argent-dawn (Psjohly)]

@Lilîith-silvermoon

face it guilds are relic of past only usefull if you plan to mythic raid or do high mythic + keys

The game is way more fun with friends though.

[Lilîith-silvermoon]

@Psjohly-argent-dawn

@Lilîith-silvermoon

face it guilds are relic of past only usefull if you plan to mythic raid or do high mythic + keys

The game is way more fun with friends though.

and why do you assume that in order to play with friends i need to be in guild .

have plenty of people to play with on real id and so many discord servers to use .

[Psjohly-argent-dawn (Psjohly)]

Ok, then we get to a definition of the word guild What people usually mean with “find a guild”, it means search for groups/communities to play together with. Not only an ingame “guild”.

[Emobear-firemaw]

@Evilmendur-azjolnerub

So basically starting a mythic +0 dungeon is really slow and than to getting the first key and after that having the luck of getting a key not to the same dungeon.
I cant do raids because nobody joins, i cant join raids because nobody accepts 434il demologylock,
So its like, what to do to get more gear so you could be more useful and acceptable.

At 434 emissaries should give you 445 itemrewards, target all of these every day they are up. As far as i know there have been both items, azerite items and weapon caches in Alliance emmissary rewards the last days/week.

Then you wanna do Heroic Darkshore, also up on Allaince side atm as far as i know, there should be alot of groups up for it, just spam sign up for them all and someone will invite you sooner or later. Remember to get the quest first, as it awards you a 460 item.

Do 8.3 world bosses, current one in Uldum, can drop 445 loot and you can use your seal for a chance of 1 more item.

Do assaults and dailies in vale and uldum, this will likely you give you 1 445 item each.

Then apply for some keys as you raise your itemlevel, completing a +7 gives you a 460 item in weekly chest.

Cap conquest by doing bgs and call to arms quests, gives you a 445 item per cap, done in a day or two, first cap gives a 445 weapon.