4 specced classes

dude i said it from start i only play meele surv.
And beffore sinec dawn of wow i failed to see difference between these two comapred to clear cut how it is now each feels and plays differently.

In fact I did play a survival during Cata and MoP, not on retail, but I mean, private servers do not cancel buttons to press.

I can’t speak for PvP as I said above but I don’t feel it to be so deeply different from the Mm spec to justify its presence right now.

Prolly the only big thing was the explosive trap in AoE?

Maybe you should move on and accept people have different opinion and views and not act like a child just because people don’t see it the same as you.

Just saying ppl, this post was about ideas how 4 specs could work.
Because we had specs like rsv and meta lock removed, just to bring them back.
Same as shaman that don’t even use a lot of totems any more.
This became all about rsv.
Yeah i mentioned it but that doesn’t mean it should only be about that, it was the most fun hunter spec for me tho.
Iff you didn’t play it or you started after the change, why do you even talk about it.
Same as the meta lock, you never saw that being played.
Made some classes insanely fun to play as well.
So don’t defend or hate on something you never played before, i don’t want specs to be removed, only being added to the game so it changes up a bit.

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Opnion and views is one thing but adamantly making claims it is the same when you did not even play it at the time is not opinion or views worth considering.

I played a mix of surv and mm in all expansions (first time playing bm was in legion) now what patch was the private server on because that matters what tier sets was available because that matters.

Survival did not feel the same as MM when playing it.
If you feel fire and frost is very different then you know how different surv and mm was it is very close to that.

Gamekeeper - A hunter spec that uses animals and natural healing abilities to heal and buff.

I am not making any claims, when I speak, I speak from my own perspective.
I did not see this deep different spec when I played it, and I always saw the Survival spec a “huuu duhhh we had no idea what to put as a 3rd spec”

If my opinion is not worth considering make me a favor and don’t reply to me at all, tyvm.
You won’t change my mind anyway so you are wasting your time.

I really like this philosophy of adding more tank/heal spec tbh.
Would be a bit scared of Blizz pet AI tho ahah.

True, i saw some post about a shaman tank spec because you had the stoneskin and stoneclaw totems back in the day. That’s why i acually started this post.
It would change the game up and would add something new, would make looking for a tank or healer far easier than in the current game as well.

Enhancement was originally supposed to be a tank spec.
It got scrapped in beta but high threat abilities was lingering.

Yes, I literally avoid playing some classes. lately if they don’t have certain roles.

Tanking is something I always end up doing and it’s the best way in pugs, would prolly play totally different classes compared to now if they had tanking specs.

Love enha but I hate resto, would surely play them if I could tank +enha.

I am. November 3rd is when my sub here expires. “Go play other games” is a shockingly good advice but I really wouldn’t advise such hostility because… everyone is playing other games.

WoW’s bad design is literally driving players away, because ultimately - gamers want to play games. Not glorified progression systems hung around a combat system. This is what mobile games are for. WoW is a mobile-tier MMO, and I like mobile games. This is not necessarily an insult.

Blizz either corrects their course or WoW dies. There’s no other way. 2 bad expansions in a row… you can expect hype for 10.0 to be low. With Endwalker, New World’s future content and Ashes of Creation on the horizon, Blizz can no longer afford to rest on their laurels. Wow has to undergo a dramatic change.

In fact, this is what MoP did - action MMOs were on the rise, so Blizzard wanted to make WoW less of an RPG and more of an arcade MMO. Now, MMORPGs are on the rise again. So Blizz has to make WoW an RPG again.

You can wallow in your denial, just don’t cry that guilds are disbanding and there’s not enough pugs in the dungeon finder.

Frost shock also generated alot of aggro if i remember correctly :thinking:

Shadow priest apparently is considered a tank by Blizzard as well, since Mind Blast is basically a taunt while leveling

I am sure they would love to add more classes or class specs at Blizzard, they love enjoy to balance even more.

My enjoyment of X does not come from random strangers not playing.

A range rogue spec. But it could be pretty difficult to differentiate it from MM in term of gameplay

People suggesting to destroy demonology even more lol

You cold make it more like an alchimist kind of rogue.

Throwing strange vials + knife, mixing it with more gun usage like the outlaw.

I’d prefer traditional bow and arrow or crossbow and bolts, but that’s just imo

Also add warlocks to Zandalari again.

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Your enjoyment of an MMO comes from the MMO having the funds to add new content, maintain the servers, etc. which will not be the case for WoW forever unless the game changes.

1 year and we have only gotten one content patch.

Blizzard’s main struggle is that the core of the game is mechanically empty - classes are vapid, gear is boring, so in order to try and make the game… playable, to try and make it an MMO where you progress, they have to invent contrived progression systems which make the game boring.

Currently, WoW’s game design requires a giant population for the game to even work. If the population continues its downward trend, M+ will have to be reworked to accommodate the smaller population pool. Your enjoyment is directly tied to others playing this game.