406k Skillbane, when nerf?

I think you mention it somewhere that you dont always play with it
Special for 2s if you dont play Night11 is there a world where you can play without shadowdance and kingsbane ?

I try echo reprimand and deeper stratagem with 2x poisen dragon tempered blades and it doesnt felt too bad

It’s mostly in some 3s match-up that I don’t pick it (and one other top Assa never picks it in 3s at all). Basically if the games are going to be a bit dampening it’s better to have (slightly) higher sustained damage and more flexibility regarding CC and Combo Points, so you go for Bone Spike over KB (since you have to play Carnage, Arterial and Demise you cannot get both KB and Bone Spike). For example against DH Ele RDruid you can just oom them with damage, use Dance to peel and reapply Garrote etc etc, no need to try and burst someone down (they are very tanky anyway, plus HoTs, plus Treants). But to be honest playing KB or not playing KB are equally valid ways of playing the game. It’s just that if you do play KB don’t fall into the trap of playing around it too much, holding it to try and oneshot… you need to use Dance almost on CD to stun and silence. So, you do this (as opposed to people who sit on it forever until they can try to oneshot, then fail), and you find a way to get a good Shiv KB while you’re at it.

In 2s I would absolutely play it always. Dampening is already high so people struggle to recover from bursty damage. Plus, some specs/comps are so broken in 2s that oftentimes your only win condition is killing them in a handful seconds when they do a mistake, and KB is the only way Assa can burst like that.

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Damage is fine, buff everybody for perfect balance.

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You always try to depict Sniper Shot as broken with your all alts and full effort.

You also do manipulation by giving damage numbers of targets that actively have health increasing stuffs like hp trinkets/skills.

You are barefaced and your mind is not healthy my friend. I wish you quick recovery.

You always try to depict Sniper Shot as broken with your all alts and full effort.

Sniper shot is broken, if you take the MM damage profile and numbers into consideration. The only button that can get anywhere close to that damage is Aimed shot within CA threshold, which, if it crits, is still roughly 130k short, and under regular circumstances can take 2.5 seconds to cast. There is zero reason for it to scale with mastery and versa if it’s supposed to be a %-based spell.
With all that said, I do enjoy abusing the hell out of it, because it’s fun. Doesn’t change the fact that it’s broken.

You also do manipulation by giving damage numbers of targets that actively have health increasing stuffs like hp trinkets/skills.

I don’t.

You are barefaced and your mind is not healthy my friend. I wish you quick recovery.

Thanks :>


On a side note,

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You’re comparing a button that can be used out of stealth under ideal circumstances (a priest that’s too lazy to mount up and run around the pillar) and outside of that scenario takes 3 seconds to cast, with a button that’s instant and can be used by the same class that provides setup within the timeframe of said setup. MM can’t pet stun and instantly Sniper shot into it.

Anyway. Damage is either too low, or too high, make out of it what you will, there are outliers on both sides of the spectrum. At the same time, there are outliers for gameplay, where one class needs zero setup to kill, and the other kills only in setups while having enough damage to kill. The game is saturated as fok, so your most effortless solution is buffing everybody to the level of S1 Ret, creating an opportunity to effortlessly set up kills as any one spec without a counterplay. Perfect balance.

75% of mm hunters pick Sniper Shot as pvp talent in SS yet it is still f tier.

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/pvp/filter/results?class=hunter&spec=marksmanship&leaderboards=solo&regions=eu#spec-talents

https://www.pvpleaderboard.com/statistics/solo/eu/2200#spec

Make a video in a solo shuffle with at least 1 decent melee opponent, and show us how you ‘abuse’ it. You are a delusional clown until this time.

No need to read rest of your fairy tale. Because i like to speak sharp and proof-based.

you are seriously needing some math lessons mate.

You probably do bro. How is 1.4m minus 406k a 1 shot? Enlighten me.

Who needs arguements

when you can literally show it happen to someone

https://clips.twitch.tv/FairAnnoyingPartridgeMingLee-kuLP2XcUrXYhGg6F

410k

buff assa rogue too underpowered

must feel great to stay under the radar and getting free rating while people cry about other classes :rofl:

I can’t wait for the “but bro it was obvious it took a long time to hit that much anybody could see it coming”

in case somebody is blind, keep looking the character portrait of the warlock to see the 410k hit

Pls don’t talk in this thread if ur not high in arena (1400)

Dh wasn’t even under the radar but got even more free rating…

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I like it when clips prove my point.

Assa bursts with Dance on a fixed 1min timer. This player here also uses Deathmark, a fixed 2min timer. So, there is a Rogue who sends every single ability that he has in his spellbook, abilities that can be matched by the team we’re watching on a script since there is no CDR.

Guardian ? Still on CD for 20s. So, it was used on nothing when it should answer Dance everytime. Lock goes beyond 35% without pressing anything vs all-in, then dies because still not pressing while in execute AND cooldowns are available.

It’s literally an all-in and they press nothing at all. Many many specs right now kill as fast as that or faster even if people are sitting here and watching when they get all-in’ed (yeah I didn’tknow the verb for that one).

On a side note, he even says he should wall. He was correct.

Thank you for the free ammo I suppose.

By the way when do we complain that ToD hits harder than KB ? Because you know KB can only do that when it EXECUTES, so surely ToD should receive the same complaints no ?

In case it wasn’t clear the first time I’ll say it again: you cannot just /dance 360 and hit 400k as Assa Rogue, it is an EXECUTE so people need to already be low when you press your burst, which shouldn’t be happening often at all if both parties involved played correctly when it comes to trading.

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Hey Friends, isnt Destro lock S tier, and u have most likely a Destro as an Enemy in every second Game? just asking for a Friend

i have seen so many destro looks between 2k-2.3 since dh got nerfed u also see destro ww monk now

I wonder why every people who plays a s tier or s+ tier class wants other classes to be nerfed

i dont want to whiteknight Rogue, but i have seen 100000 more Destros, ww monks Mages, oder Boomys than Rogues

i dont play Rogue myself, i only want to give feedback how other peoples are seeing the “meta”

Also i noticed, since the dh nerf, u see more Warris now

Ah, i play Hunter

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Bro you are on a DH, we all can remeber the meta a view weeks ago

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based 10/char

It’s still meta hah

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No, Its A tier at best, +200% Armor could fix it tho.

Sure, just buy me a sub then :hot_face:

I hit a tank with barely 1 mill hp for 390k with skillsbane. I’m still trying to figure out how you supposedly hit a regular, semi-competent player for the magic 406k since best i got on a player in normal conditions was like 260k.

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Lose* And Rogues counter us.