Raid Bonus Roll Update

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With scheduled weekly maintenance next week (2 September in this region), we’re implementing a change to raid loot.

  • Bonus Rolls can only be used on encounters where the player is eligible to receive loot.

This means that on each difficulty, once a player has been locked out of receiving loot for the week, defeating a boss a second or subsequent time before the end of the week will not provide an opportunity for the use of a Bonus Roll. While this is a change in loot behavior from Season 1, we feel that it more closely aligns with how loot works in general, and will be healthier for the acquisition of loot overall.

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Good. That way people stay longer motivated to raid. The progression curve this season seems to be already too far ahead in my opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if people by the time of 12.1.5 will have nothing to do in gearing anymore.

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So basically if you’re rerolling which everyone will have to do by end of september not only are you weeks behind in terms of bonus rolls acquisition but you also need 1 week extra per week that you missed to catch up, got it. I swear they just have no idea how to deal with the monster they created

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I like how there are many changes to make the system better, and still choose to do the ones that will make it worse.

Maybe fix the vault so that we actually care about it?

First season overall that I do not care to fill it and just wait to pick my bonus roll. I legit do not even care what it offers every week.

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this hotfix could’ve been a rare W, instead its a massive L

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So now not only do I need to get bonus rolls every week on 5 tanks as a ‘‘casual’’ 0.1% m+ player but I also need to kill heroic ulatek/coiled altar every week on all 5 too to spend bonus rolls

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You have literally created a Problem and your answer is… Hey guys you don’t get to roll so tadaaaa.

Stop micromanaging our behaviour whenever you screwed up a system and fix the system.

Bonusrolls were fun just the way they were there was no need for this update.

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If they could make it so at least you can’t get the same vault item twice when you choose something…vault would be worth taking this whole season at all.

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I wont be a friend of Bonus loot this Season, the next 6 weeks will be bonus Rolls for HC to get every piece of the Last 2 Bosses in myth track .and the 7 weeks after that will be bonus Rolls for the Same thing in mythic which makes the Weekly vault kind of useless this Season

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Why not get rid of bonus rolls, because they are actually limiting options. And just make the vault work so its actually meaningful. or let you choose the dungeon to roll in vault and get the gear potentially. This means in 8 weeks on my alts, bonus rolls are useless for gearing.

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You should then allow the vault to the table loot from boss to avoid duplicate items

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L change, it also lowers participation of players that already have the means to kill X boss.

now its once per week and the player is gone. Fail to see the reason behind this change honestly.

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The only upside I could see is not having half your raid loot locked on a kill which reduces the loot pool.

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Loot is broken no point in taking anything other then a bonus roll when vault is not even on the knock out list, i also do not think this gonna prolong participation either, i think this will more then likely reduce the amount of players pugging raids unless they have alts that aren’t locked out.

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I think they’re trying to restrict people from repeating runs because they think it’ll dilute the loot table for the rest of the raid that who didn’t even kill that boss that week.
On the other hand, there are more people applying and more raid setups happening if they allow the bonus roll. And it gives people incentive to take a break for later and catch-up when they can.

Overall, I don’t like this change, and I don’t know how they’ve imagined anyone who thought about it would even for a second.

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Loot system this season is completely off. First of all having last 2 bosses in mythic dropping higher ilvl is unfair for people who just want to play m+ and don’t have access to the kind of guild that reaches that point early enough to reclear it. How many guilds cleared mythic Belo’ren and L’ura last season even just once?

Regarding bonus rolls. Having bonus rolls on vault completely killed weeklys and hype since every wednesday you will just take a roll instead of any item. With this change it’ll be impossible to equip an alter mid season since 90% of BIS items are in raid. Without the lockout we could do as we did in season 1 rolling in dungeons but now in raid. If you won’t reverse this change at least remove items you selected from vault from the roll pool.

I think bonus rolls were a good addition as a turbo boost and catch-up system in s1 but should definitely be separated from vault.

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Agreed. I have already started hoarding them in anticipation of killing the last two heroic bosses and spamming them on that.

This basically killed the Vault for me.

But you know what? I like that last part. The vault is stupid. Always has been. The chest was even worse.

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Remove the bonus rolls from vault and bring them sooner. Nobody wants to wait 7 weeks for the bonus rolls. Most people will be done with the season by the time the 8 weeks bonus rolls quest is available.

I have a question though. Since we only had 1 bonus roll available this week why was it important to hotfix this in and not wait until reset? If I knew rolling a hc boss gives you mythic items I would have taken a coin but I did not because I did not know and we killed lost explorers already on HC but I thought I might go back and re kill if I can coin it. Why would have been an issue if I did that? Or many others in the same situation? Couldn’t abuse anything because you only have 1 bonus roll from vault and next week would have been fixed anyway. Many people coined it knowing this. I did not and now I can’t. You cansay next week but next week maybe my vault is not useless like this week where coin would have been the obvious choice.

Thumbs down for not waiting with this until reset.

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Nope. I wanted to play 3-4 more alts besides 1 main and 1 alt . Now i given up on alts and even stopped to collect bonus rolls on them. They will get opposite of what you talking about.

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The only system players agreed on and were truly happy with was the dinar system. This allowed you to target the item you wanted. This system should have been the one they worked on as it is far more meaningful than the rng fiasco.

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