Not having any EU servers is absurd

I have no doubt that Blizzard deliberately withheld this information, nothing else explains the total radio silence.

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It’s definitely annoying, and I’ll give you that. I’m not playing the beta myself, but I understand why European players are frustrated by the latency, routing problems, and having to resort to VPNs just to make things more playable.

The important distinction, though, is that Blizzard has never publicly stated that all beta tests are exclusively hosted on North American servers or that they have no intention of using European servers.

Historically, a lot of testing has been done in the US, which makes sense when the development teams have direct access to those data centers. But Blizzard could have been more transparent about the setup. If they had clearly said, “The beta will use US servers, so European players should expect higher latency,” people could have made a more informed decision before spending €60 for access.

I also understand why some players are requesting refunds after the problems since launch. I don’t know how many have actually done so, but if someone bought the €60 package primarily for beta access, getting a refund and later buying the €30 version for Skyborn is certainly an option.

So I don’t think information was deliberately withheld, but there was certainly a lack of transparency. And Blizzard’s communication since launch hasn’t exactly helped. Apart from acknowledging that there were issues, there’s been very little communication with the European community.

At this point, I wouldn’t expect much from the EU forums. Community interaction here is pretty limited, and direct communication with the Forever developers seems unlikely.

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I wanted to test the beta, first quest gave 1.2k world latency! 2 months subcription I got for beta and yet forced to play classic/retail, mum’s not happy because she gifted the heroic pack to me. Buy vpn for another 60€, I don’t dare to ask her… :frowning:

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game is terrible anyway … stay retail

Beta has always been on servers in the US. The entire world beta tests on the US servers, we always have.

I’m more surprised that people weren’t aware of this. However I don’t think it’s a pure EU issue. I’m in the EU and can play fine with the usual 100MS to the US but others can’t stay connected and have insane lag.

The fact that spoofing your location with a VPN, solves this issue is also bizarre.

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Yo, I’m from Quebec, Canada, and I bought the wrong box back in 2005… I’ve been playing on Europe since forever. My MS has been stable at 88, and I’ve played at an ELITE level in pretty much every aspect of the game.

I see absolutely no difference compared to my US account with 40 ms. The problem isn’t Blizzard’s servers, but the terrible internet infrastructure in Europe. While my entire guild was constantly dealing with disconnects and other internet problems, I never had a single issue in 20 years because the internet here is rock solid.

If that was remotely true people wouldn’t be able to use VPNs to fix the problem.

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it could be some ISPs throttling the connection or something like that. and the VPN hiding where it goes so no throttle

It feels like I’m playing a picture. It’s terrible, and it’s absurd that you’re taking Blizzard’s side. But I see you’re a green one, so you can’t say anything bad. At least don’t say anything at all, because this is a real problem for players and we all pay the same sub price.

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I can say what I like, being an MVP doesn’t mean I have to like everything Blizzard does. I am vocal about things I dislike.

If I was having the horrendous MS issues and disconnects I would be reporting that to Blizzard to and asking for them to resolve it.

I am in the UK (so EU) and I can play normally without the issues others are having. It’s not a universal EU problem. However those with the issues, if they use a VPN can play so it’s something on Blizzard’s end IMO that they need to fix.

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I played the Midnight beta with absolutely no problems and not a single disconnection… This is a problem specific to Forever, and I hope Blizzard fixes it. I have it, along with three other friends who came back to WoW just for Forever.

(The good news is that Forever (Enha version) looks exactly the way we wanted WoW Classic to look so far.)

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Yeah it’s a terrible experience. I was under the impression there would be an EU server, if there wasn’t going to be it should have been in the small print when purchasing. If I knew it would be this bad I would have just bought the base and waited until the official launch.

Yes it’s specific to Forever, I’ve been beta and sometimes alpha testing at various times for Blizz and mostly the connection isn’t the issue.

Something is definitely going wrong here and only for some players. They absolutely need to fix it. This issue is really peculiar, the ones that do get it, can bypass it with a VPN, which just goes to show server location is not the issue.

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I have steady 120-130ms in Europe. Plays perfectly fine.

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Is this just a beta issue?

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Indeed, I’ve also been playing today without issue. 90-100MS here.

Yeah some issue affecting some players in Europe but not all. Hopefully it will be resolved soon.

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I don’t know if Blizzard fixed something or if this is permanent, or if it’s just because everyone in Europe is sleeping, but for about two hours now I’ve had a stable latency of around 150 ms and no disconnects. Just five hours ago, it was unplayable and crashed about every two minutes.

For me, there were big queues and unplayable latency on the first evening but it settled down yesterday. I was getting no queues and about 102/102 ms latency, which wasn’t a noticeable problem.

Im from EU and had no connection problems in Beta so far.

I want a refund unless this gets solved…

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