So i love playing dwarves, without them i probably wouldnt have been playing WoW as much as i did. Obviously i couldn’t wait to play them again in Forever.
Sadly their racials aren’t that hot, sure the buff to beasts are great when actually fighting beasts but that’s about it really, Stoneform is great in some situations but it’s not nearly as allround as other racials, especially the dmg/haste buffs.
What i find especially telling is that they made the dwarven hunter the main face of Forever but dwarven hunter is by far the worst pick of all races for hunter…
It feels like they need a tune up, perhaps change that akward mace expertise to a flat 1% crit/hit. Or at least put back Gun expertise? Anything really.
i cant bring myself to play dwarf hunter now and that was the thing i was looking forward the most.
How are others feeling about this?
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Which class/speac are you talking? dwarf racials are the best for Shamans regardles of the spec.
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in what world is dwarf racials better then orc and troll?
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lol they are the only race on ally that can be shaman you cant be for real
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but yea dwarf racials are really bad just stoneform is good for pvp
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Nun you see, they are as op as Skyborne restor druids Horde. But actually, there are a lot of maces which give crit for Dwarfes.
Hit it right on the head there, only maces. What if your class cant use maces..or that a good one won’t drop/exist? It will feel great when using a mace but if you aren’t it is useless and just annoyingly sits in the back of your head while you watch your classmates on better races do more dmg.
Especially as a DPS this isnt very fair tbh, also its just 1% instead of the 2% humans get.
This racial (along with the other weapon ones) are not a great way to express racial identity and just locks you into using a specific weapon class
Honestly they have fitting racials. Sure, offensively they’re worse but I just don’t see dwarves as an offensive race like Orcs/Trolls.
That being said, they should absolutely amp the 1% mace buff up to 2% so it aligns with Humans for instance.
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Yeah i agree the racials fit but it shouldn’t have such a big differance. Right now it feels like dwarven Rogues & Hunters are really bad picks for alliance.
Racial abilities discrepancy. Is it not as classic as classic wow experience?.
From other side, some races like NE were some kinda fixed when others were just adjusted.
dwarf racials are good for rogue and hunter not sure which to make or go and create both
I don’t know what the new ones are, but Stoneform remains a fantastic racial even in modern WoW with all the allied races. Beserking and Blood Fury are admittedly always useful where Stoneform is only sometimes useful, but when Stoneform is useful it is lifesaving and encounter breaking. Basically all debuffs removed with a racial that then also reduces physical damage taken.
Troll and orc racials help you parse, but the dwarf racial lets you bypass mechanics.
I agree, seeing other races mostly getting buffed it feels bad being left with treasure hunt which, I assume, does absolutely nothing for combat.
Could probably be a passiv tbh.
Yeah, I felt that too. I thought they would buff up the unloved races (taurens, gnomes, and in some extend ; dwarves). But taurens got their cool run passive, herbalism (but they needed it, I think it’s the least played race), but dwarves racials feel a bit off. Especially the maces expertise (compared to the human one which is 2%).
troll has the worst racials by far. its not even close. that regen talent should be a HoT not a channeled spell. its also the least popular race so i dont know why the racials are this bad
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the treasure hunt is not made for pvp its for pve silly while traveling the world and looking for chests and why should the races get racials for pvp only ?
Treasure tracking is cool though. They are dwarves after all! This shouldnt really take up racial budget though i think as it doesn’t improve performance.
A small offensive tweak is all it needs really , be it gun expertise or flat 1% crit/hit.
Whats wrong with troll racial? It seems very usefull with it’s 50% of -MAX- HP..thats insane really. Just CC your target and pop Rapid Regeneration, it’s even good for plain old questing. Berzerking seems pretty good if you combine it with other abilities or trinkets. As healer especially this seems like such a solid button that you would press very often in dungeons and pvp
Attack and casting speed does not scale up to 30% depending how much HP you lost
its a glorified bandage that wont even be stronger than the existing heavy runecloth bandages until multiple raid tiers in. why would i stand there channelling for 6 seconds when i can run away and eat?
the alternative to what i already suggested is to make it not break on damage but keep it as a channel. that would make it function differently from cannibalize too
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