Fighting against ''RMT'' also screwind over normal players too

First of all, I absolutely hate RMT and the level that botting has reached on classic realms. But this current attempt at a ‘‘solution’’ is bloody ridiculous…

I want to finish beta for now and just return at launch. I wanted to give my gold to a friend to make things a bit easier for him, but we’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t even dare to trade it. This broken system would literally ban us over a stupid 15–20 gold… Of course I know it can be bypassed via the Auction House or something similar, but it’s completely messed up that players can’t even dare to trade something to a friend without fearing a ban.

And like I said, yes, I hate RMT, but banning everyone over stuff like this is just pure nonsense. Stop screwing over regular players and go after the actual RMT gold traders and bots who are the root cause of this whole mess.

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Well you could buy items instead and trade those?

But that’s not even the point. The real issue is that I even have to think about this in the first place, simply because they are incapable of filtering out the actual cheaters properly. And we are not talking about hundreds or thousands of gold here, but literally 15–20 gold. I heard that a streamer got banned over just 20 gold.

I saw that it was way more than that. Think one transaction was 180 and more after that.

Yea you heard he got banned for 20 gold because that’s what he wants you to hear. In reality, they got 180 gold and even more in several transactions and that was 100% suspicious.

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Anyways i just refunded the skyborn epic. The race sucks, weakest in both factions. I will give it a try after launch, but im not so optimistic.

Banning a streamer over a 180g trade only makes sense if there is evidence beyond any reasonable doubt that the gold came from illicit sources.

There’s a growing pattern of decisions that increasingly feels more like a Cuban dictatorship than a free and open gaming environment.

Banning RMT doesn’t mean turning the game into a witch hunt where people are afraid to trade gold with each other.

The same character kept coming back over and over trading gold.

Lvl 20 on a fresh beta server that will be wiped… Ofc they have more proof, they don’t want to ban anyone. This time in Forever, they will start banning gold buyers. They warned about that.

That means it’s helping a little then?

Noone needs to trade their “friend” large amounts of gold.

Won’t matter people will buy other things with their credit card - items,carries, consumables.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that, considering that several of the current decisions are starting to resemble Castro’s Cuban dictatorship. From forcing players into a particular playstyle to banning or suspending people simply because they have the word “monkey” in their name, they’re really going way too far here.

Thinking that every ban is reviewed individually is simply not realistic. If you’ve played Classic for several years, you know that isn’t how it works.

Fear of consequences is the only thing that can curb RMT. A lot more credit card warriors need to lose their accounts if you ask me.

Ok but 180g at lvl 20 on a fresh beta server though :man_shrugging:

How can you prove that someone bought a raid boost with their credit card or some consumables?

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Don’t ask me, I don’t work at blizzard. Raid boosts do not affect the game as much as people buying gold does. I rather not have the whole game be infested by bots farming gold for the swipers.

Glad to hear that the new race is not op.

About the RMT bans: I don’t think you get banned from trading 20 gold to you friend.

There are already self-made addons by players which can track where the gold of other players comes from. Blizzard on top has way more information, like logs and so on.

If you for example play together with your friend, have a chat history and if your gold comes from multiple sources and not a 50hour dungeon grind, blizzard should clearly see that your trade is not a RMT trade.

So I would not worry about that too much.

About the streamers: they can win 100.000$ in a super sweaty tourney. Don’t think they tell you the truth, almost all of them try to squeeze out every advantage they can get from this game.

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Raid boost does not affect the game? What do you think what are ppl usually buying with gold? Boosts. Boost=better items=power. End result is Pay2win. Especially if PvE items end up being too OP in PvP as well. So far, they haven’t said anything concrete, and the vendor items don’t have any PvP Power or Resilience on them, which suggests that this is exactly how it’s going to end up.

The guhnome asked how to track raid boosts using credit cards. If they use gold it can be tracked and banned.

And it does not affect the game as much, seeing some drooling noob with better gear than me isn’t bad as seeing 20 bots stuck jumping against a wall + the 1000 flying all around you.

Stop lying, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it. It’s not 20 or 30 gold that’s going to trigger Blizzard’s bot detection systems, but rather hundreds, whether in a lump sum or accumulated over time.