Ice Lance and Fire Blast sharing a CD now - for real blizzard?

Can anybody from Blizzard explain why Ice Lance and Fire Blast are sharing a CD now?
I thought the idea was to make the rotation more fun and not more boring.
Instead of adding new skills to the rotation, they basically removed one through the sharing of the CD.

The rotation for frost mages now is basically: Frost Bolt, Frost Bolt, Frost, Bolt, Ice Lance, Frost Bolt, Frost Bolt, Frost Bolt, Ice Lance…

Fire Blast as an alternative instant spell to use would make the rotation way more interesting.

I would personally prefer to decrease the Ice Lance to 200% again but not sharing a CD with fireblast.

What do you guys think?

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Not a big fan of this. Would have helped if they had added in the patchnotes the reason for changing this.

Is it due to lvl 60 damage being too high - or Revelation being too strong working with the cast + instant (I.E a frostmage would do frostbolt + fire blast, if no FF procs).

Having fewer buttons to use as a frost mage is a bit meh.

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On datamined version ice lance was 30 yards increased to 36 with arctic reach. There are no notes about this. If on default its 30 yards extra bad. Either way nerfed out of existence. I only will take it because it required for FoF

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If the damage is too high, I dont understand why they increased the ice lance bonus dmg from 200 to 300%.
The shared CD with fireblast makes absolutely no sense to me. It looks like they want to prevent frost mages from using fire blast which is really sad.

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Yeah, having a hard time understanding the why for this change.

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because bad mage players are supposed to spam arcane explosion instead of those

PvP reasons for sure, 2 instant casts one after the other make ppl cry hard

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Fire blast was a waste of mana in classic PvE, no mage ever used it in its rotation on a boss fight, it would reduce your dmg

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On raiding only usage of ice lance would be to consume extra finger of frost procs. As now you wouldnt even use it then. Seems like mage rotation will be like we are gonna stay melee range keep winters chill up, cone of cold on cool down

An occasional Fire Blast (or lack of) doesn’t change the appeal of the rotation for Frost Mages in any shape or form?

Overall, for an interesting rotation…Frost Mage was never really the spec to be (with some exceptions later on in Retail’s lifecycle). And this is coming from someone who always have played Frost Mage since early Vanilla days, and in every single expansion following. Popping in Fire Blast also doesn’t make much sense from a theme perspective?

  • “I cool you down so my abilities hit more”
  • “I cool you further down to freeze you”
  • “My crits are out of control!”
  • “JK, here is a Fire Blast in your face”
  • [Restart from the start]

No one is going to be playing frost in PvE, this is a big nerf for mage PvP.
And this is a huge nerf (cant use fireblast or lance to break grounding, have to wand it).

For PvP having Revelation you would still have a big nuke (outside FF) with a cast+fireblast (both abilities gained the Revelation buff). Wont have that anymore.

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Cone of Cold has entered the chat

WF proced you died entered the chat. But sure try to gain stacks vs a shaman who aint a bot and then run into melee for a CoC. I.E you have no clue what you are talking about - prob a PvE bot by reading your comments.

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lol you let the shaman walk up to you as mage? haha noob

you probably don’t know but coc has more range than meele swings

Oh so even Ziqo who is r1 mage since before you were born also has the matchup wrong.
Who said exactly the same as me, there is no world where you will run into range of CoC vs a capable shaman. This is just you being a bot.

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grounding still is double the cd of ice lance / fire blast. idk bro maybe its better for you to just watch streams than playing the game

Do you know that shaman has earth shock? And you think a mage would waist a 8 sec CD on lance to break grounding?

You are clueless dude and I agree with Ziqo, its like someone who has never played mage PvP (like you) who are taking these decisions.

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Im not arguing with a ziqo fanboi who is insulting me as bot in every of his replies. just get rekt bro

“Oh why would a frost mage need fireblast - that would be less damage in PvE” while no one is going to play Frost in PvE. Just shh noobody.

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