Whoever designed the new “Quick Getaway” talent in the Subtlety tree clearly has zero understanding of how World PvP and open-world dynamics actually work. Double Sap makes node gathering, calling friends for help, and small-scale PvP utterly pointless since a single Rogue can CC two ( even three with stunlock combo without trinket got or big CD’s ) players with zero counterplay. If this balance-shattering talent goes live as-is, there is no reason to play on a PvP realm anymore. I will be rolling on a PvE realm instead.
Only 2 rogs will CC my whole party and i just watch them to play… Superb fun idea…
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Its deep sub and is needed for control which is the job of sub talent tree. Two mages could do the same. I can imagine you have been ganked by a rogue and it is a traumatic event for you. Many hate paladins because they can lay of hands bubble etc and win no matter what depending on what cooldown is up. Yet I dont scream bloody murder because its part of their design. Sapping and controling the field is the whole part of sub rogue and rogue in general.
Sap It is useful in pve and pvp. As a paladin you got spell breaker stuff as prot. A lot of great quality of life additions for all trees. Rogues waited all beta and got paid dust, now you scream foul play and havent even seen this in action. Roll on a pve because there is always a new flavour of the month and if it bothers you that much well that doesnt sound fun.
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Deep sub? You can take last talent + double sap without anyproblem even with assa and combat talents. 3 Rogs could join WSG without premade penalty and sap 6 target and stunlock 3 target. %90 of players against them couldn’t even move without major CD or trinket…
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It’s going to be so much fun. I’m loving the Rogue changes, especially knowing they’ve said they won’t make any adjustments until before the raids are released.
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Greetings!
I cant find a word for that ability, OMG.
Hahahahaa that was the most crazy ability in the history of wow to be honest,
IF this was an ability in private server I would buy that BUT here in forever and they force players to be in open world, well
Think about a human rogues in BGs
Persepction and sap 2 other rogues, will to survive other insane broken racial.
and now this 1 OMG.
Best Regards
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This is such and idiotic talent should only apply to non player target
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As an orc you can remove subs deathmark as its a curse. All the races have good things. Im rolling horde.
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Beyonce stop it
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WoW PvP has always been a shame since the very beginning thanks to rogues. It’s better to let it go and play PvE and only PvP in large groups, like organised world PvP events or AV where 1v1 is less dominant.
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Its mid talent tree, not deep. And no, 2 Mages cant do that. Sap = you cant act. 2 Mages can sheep 1 person each, but everyone else can react.
Sap, same as sheep and Lock Fear needed rebalancing. Not a buff.
Unless it was changed, Perception in Vanilla is meh. Its not as powerful as in TBC.
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it is not about ORC it is a crazy ability, lol why do you pull ORC here.
So, everybody shold play ORC to counter that ability, OMG.
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Kek now 2x sap and 3x roots for boomie..
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Belinda, yes you are right but this one was an another step stone in the edge of crazyness.
Hahaahahaha cant believe that 5 steps to open world clown fiesta.
Kiskumen and I am sure “Grim” will be very happy.
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Are you alright? I cant tell if these alts are all you or not. Because the replies are quite quick on this dead forum. Regardless its just a discussion, it is pointless to get this pressed about things when they are always changing. And no I wasn’t saying that I was trying to hype up horde as arent they always being locked out of servers, so it cant be that bad their racials.
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Beyonce please stop coming here with your Retail character and your laughable knowledge about PvP, read my posts and try to figure out who I am until then please stop defending that ability.
A player who defends that ability is either a retail gen z or has no clue about PvP.
And stop pulling differnt things and stay in the subject.
Stop that.
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Just like High Alert should only apply to NPCs. Win some, lose some.
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You must not play rogue you clearly dont know how valuable in pvp imp sprint is. You wouldnt take that if you were mut or even combat as you need talents in assassin, You have no knowledge of rogue, you just scream op like most of these people because you dont understand something so you fear it.
My advice like the other trolls hiding behind alts here is to roll the class and see what the counters are. The fact you fear rogues so much shows a lack of pvp experience. Zekla. As well as general intelligence also by your gen z remark.
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Beyonce
When you cells in orange you father ate, I used to write guides in Elit Jerks and published class design proposals and was one of the first guest and chain quest solver in classic wow, I was the guy who created many Proffesion guides in TBC.
I dont even talk about guild that i was in. It is apperently you are a guy around 25 by judging your arrogance.
So, stop that young padavan, you have too much to learn.
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I’m concerned if you’re publishing anything with your grammar and statements. No idea what it is you’re talking about but good on you if you’re getting paid. You just sound unhinged and desperate to me. I have somewhere to be, but it was lovely to speak to whoever you think you are.
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Double sap is broken and unnecessary.
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