8.1 spoilers. Lorash.

31/10/2018 17:20Posted by Shandyr
The difference is, that their parents doesn't choose to follow Dathremar, which wanted to leave Kalimdor. His parents breaked the rules & leave Kalimdor. It's their fault.


And now the kaldorei abandoned the rules and fistbumpd and handshaked with the very same Highborne that went into hiding to keep using aracane magic. This is the biggest hypocrisy of their history. Just like most Alliance races and their "I'ma so much better and holier than you tho!" attitude.
No, I don't want for him to be totally cool but to treat them as some distant uimportant relatives. The milk got spilled, time to move on. He didn't have a say on the past matters, but he had a say on the future matters. Instead on dwelling on misery he could've just do something productive, not just for him but for exiled community and focus on stuff that actually matters.


Thanks for clarification, i wasn't sure what you wanted to say, aside from that you dont like him.

Yeah, he could've just moved on, accept the facts and lived his own life. This would been a nice thing to do, but he couldn't forget nor forgive in this matter. Its like those evil villains that you see everywhere in shows, that got badly hurt in the past, and now wants to get back on those people. Feelings are rarely logical, especially negative ones like hatred and contempt

And really I can't really pity him, if majority of his problems would be solved if his parents simply decided to live elsewhere. No force was magically stopping them from leaving harsh lands.


Imagine living at one place for thousands of years, and suddenly you need to leave. Not to mention everything is unfamilliar, because magical well exploded and reshaped everything. They had probably no idea where to go, what place is good for a new home. I mean you can leave a harsh land, but occasionally you need to stop for rest and gathering supplies, so those cases could be times, when they were forced to stop.

31/10/2018 13:26Posted by Zakkaru
Then why he dwells on this so much? Why he takes it so personal?


He lived through some harsh things, and thats how he dealt with it by blaming the night elves, especially Malfurion. Actually he reminds me a book from R. A. Salvatore where the main protagonist was a dark elf, and he got constanly beat up, while also teaching him about the elves living under sun were vile and evil. So everytime he got beaten up, he wished for the elves death. (i know not really similar, but this is what he reminds me)

You could say that he just cant let go of his hatred, thats all.
31/10/2018 19:12Posted by Reveran
Yeah, he could've just moved on, accept the facts and lived his own life. This would been a nice thing to do, but he couldn't forget nor forgive in this matter. Its like those evil villains that you see everywhere in shows, that got badly hurt in the past, and now wants to get back on those people. Feelings are rarely logical, especially negative ones like hatred and contempt


Oh my goodness...

No nelf directly harmed him. This is why he was so delusional. His circumstances were not that drastic at all. It's not like nelves were hunting them down, it's not like nelves were repeatedly trying to make their lives miserable, it's not like they imposed on Highborne that they have to live on some wasteland with 5% chance of survival.

It was his parents who chose this path after being given a choice to live with nelf community but simply dropping convenient magic for them, or stick to said magic and leaving. Arcane magic was too precious for them, so they willingly chose to leave.
They willingly chose to switch continent, and they willingly entered Amani lands.
All their miseries are the results of their choices ALONE.

They could only blame themselves for it.

This is why Lorash is delusional cretin.
31/10/2018 20:21Posted by Zakkaru
Highborne that they have to live on some wasteland with 5% chance of survival.

It was his parents who chose this path after being given a choice to live with nelf community but simply dropping convenient magic for them, or stick to said magic and leaving.


They were banished from the Continent. By the other Nightelves. That is a fact. They had no other choice than to sail east.
31/10/2018 20:30Posted by Erevien
31/10/2018 20:21Posted by Zakkaru
Highborne that they have to live on some wasteland with 5% chance of survival.

It was his parents who chose this path after being given a choice to live with nelf community but simply dropping convenient magic for them, or stick to said magic and leaving.


THey were anished from the Continent. By the other Nightelves. That is a fact. Thy had no other choice than to sail east.


I saw them doing well in Dire maul.
31/10/2018 20:30Posted by Erevien
31/10/2018 20:21Posted by Zakkaru
Highborne that they have to live on some wasteland with 5% chance of survival.

It was his parents who chose this path after being given a choice to live with nelf community but simply dropping convenient magic for them, or stick to said magic and leaving.


THey were anished from the Continent. By the other Nightelves. That is a fact. Thy had no other choice than to sail east.


They were banished from Kaldorei lands, which included everything north from Ashenvale and maybe Stonetalon, Desolance and Feralas...

That means Thousand Needles, Durotar, Mulgore, Dustwhallow Marsh, Un'goro Crater, Tanaris and Silithus were still "available".

Mulgore and Dustwhallow Marsh are fertile lands, and lack any real threat. That could've been a nice place to settle for the exiled Highborne. They wouldn't have to travel across the Great Sea onto a new continent. Wouldn't have suffered as much and could've turned the lake in Mulgore in their Sunwell! Its surrounded by mountains so its protected from all sides. Dustwhallow Marsh could've given them a harbor city from which they would be able to explore the world...

If they had insisted on travelling the globe Northrend, Kul Tiras, Broken Isles were around to, which could've made an better new continent to. But I doubt the knew those existed so I give them that!
... Between us, I don't think Northrend was a better place to colonize, what with the glace, the dying dragons and the angry vrykuls.
(And I reeeeeeaaaally don't think you, Reveran, meant Tolkien with that book. Sound more like a Drizzt plot.)
will he join alliance? Like ally chars joined horde. Cos all new undeads acts totally oposite.
31/10/2018 20:21Posted by Zakkaru
They willingly chose to switch continent, and they willingly entered Amani lands.
All their miseries are the results of their choices ALONE.


Night elves banished them from their continent if i remember correctly. They didn't know that the land they found was a troll land, it was only later they found out, that was a sacred land for trolls.

31/10/2018 20:38Posted by Zakkaru
I saw them doing well in Dire maul.


Those guys never got exiled, they lived there, far from the capital. Apparently, they didn't even know about a main army was standing against the demons. Goldrinn defended them, thats how they survived. For a long time they were isolated from the outside.

After the adventure of demon siphoning, killing each other, then Horde raiding Dire Maul and wandering for years, the night elves accepted them back in Cata, which probably didnt helped Lorash to hate the nelves less.

01/11/2018 05:16Posted by Dalamée
(And I reeeeeeaaaally don't think you, Reveran, meant Tolkien with that book. Sound more like a Drizzt plot.)


Im currently re-reading Lord of the Rings, so i misstyped it accidentaly, thanks for pointing it out, i edited it :)
Night elves banished them from their continent if i remember correctly. They didn't know that the land they found was a troll land, it was only later they found out, that was a sacred land for trolls.


They were banished from North Kalimdor, they could go south, as Moridunum pointed out.

And don't make me laugh with "they didn't know it was sacred lands to troll"

They were not some hobos that came out of den. These were Highborne, caste that was right under Azshara who made a deal with trolls to leave them alone if they stay within their territories.

If you see pissed off trolls that tell you to GTFO of their lands, then you should know that you're not welcome and that you should go elsewhere. But no, they purposely went for Amani lands, then didn't care for their rights to territory and sorvenity. Highborne were always about them and about their convenience.

They were always self-concerned hypocrites from start to end. Their history is all about it.

Those guys never got exiled, they lived there, far from the capital. Apparently, they didn't even know about a main army was standing against the demons. Goldrinn defended them, thats how they survived. For a long time they were isolated from the outside.


So you admitted that Highborne had it well on Kalimdor and this is where exiles could go to accomodate themseles. Thank you.

After the adventure of demon siphoning, killing each other, then Horde raiding Dire Maul and wandering for years, the night elves accepted them back in Cata, which probably didnt helped Lorash to hate the nelves less.


For like 10 thousand years many things could happen, they could be hypocrites if they'd change their mind after 100 years, but 10k that was enough to witness some big world changing events that forced to adjust some stuff.
Lorash continues to be clueless idiot.