Thats the thing. Its not and its been officially claimed. They created a service channel just help clean up the spam in /2 or LFG windows.
2nd all your “money back guarantees” offered by Ebay and Amazon is done purely by a voluntarily business decision NOT cause there is some UN laws which mandates them to do so. And since they earn income by getting more customers in, ofc they need to use ways to attract customers attention. The government only cares that ebay or Amazon is not being used to traffic…illegal substances, rest they dont care.
Blizzard on the other hand is not “advertising and encouraging boosting” so your shopping mall analogy is nothing more than the parking loot next to it, where people are making pop up markets, where the actual mall’s management tolerates it because they grown tired to fight it but they certainly dont carry responsibility for what deals are made there.
Yes yes and they are also in-league with Mexican mafias to launder their money via in-game token purchases.
Can we stop with this tinfoil conspiracy theories for once?
On another note: Why buy a boost from a random new level 1 account that spams service trade chat? If anything, buy the boost directly from the one boosting you on their account with 30k Achievement points, not from a level 1. Especially with something expensive like a mythic raid boost, why wouldn’t you trade it directly to the raid leader. As said, in their eula it’s not an officially protected transaction to buy a boost from another player. It’d also be practically hard, because the wow token price is fluid/dynamic, and if you buy like 8 wow tokens for different prices you are not gonna spend it all for 1 boost, so how should they refund it exactly. And some of that gold might also be given from the game itself. The best is if they just ban boosting in general. Wow is not a f2p game, that is financed by whales. Also, I think there is also some form of extreme carelessness, if someone buys something for 100 bucks and just trades it mindlessly to a level 1 trade-spam-bot in orgrimmar.
This one touches on the complexities of digital purchases, what we think we own vs. what we actually own. Worth a watch if you haven’t seen it already.
It’s an unsupported transaction and I don’t think that will ever change. It’s buyer beware. Blizzard are never going to endorse boosters. They aren’t going to police trades between players. Not beyond what is breaking the rules.
Personally I think it’s far safer to go through a well established reputable community that matches up guild runs with players wanting boosts. The prices are published in advance and if something goes wrong, they make it right. There is a ticketing system etc.
I don’t trust anyone who is just spamming in game in a channel and I’m not even in either trade channel. I have seen far too many friends ripped off trading gold over the years (long before the token was a thing). Even getting your gear enchanted used to be a nightmare, you had to find a trusted person in your guild or someone in another guild. Even then it was a risk.
Amazon, and Ebay, offer a market place where third parties can offer their products. The transaction ends when the buyer receives the product. If there’s something off in this process, then indeed Amazon and Ebay can step in, and they often do.
When buying Gold using Tokens, the transaction ends when you receive the token which you can exchange for gold or an in-game currency. This transaction is supported by Blizzard and if anything goes wrong they will cover it.
In both cases…after you receive the product…it’s up to you and only you what you do with it. Exchange it for some service of a third-party? Don’t knock on the door of the one who sold you the currency used.
You’re advocating for Blizzard to become more like Amazon and Ebay, but already put that kind of responsibility in their shoes. I don’t know how one can argue in favor of that.
Well, Jito implied that Blizzard intentionally doesn’t refund the victim just to drive up the demand. This is something that is hard to prove, and it doesn’t logically follow as a result of the available information.
So yes, that claim can be summarized as everything but reasonable. The alternative is that we receive sources which we can take in which support said claim.
At the end of the day ALL of these discussions always boil down to the “I PERSONALLY dislike tokens and everthing is their fault” mentality. You can’t win this one
You can buy if you actually check up facts for a change a 5/8 mythic boost for 2.500.000 and if you want a 8/8 with all tier tokens and the mount 100% it is 10million gold , this late in season after the top guilds have done farming and have maxed out gear and the mounts for there members they sale cheaply so they can get the gold ready for new season.
to be fair - its so much easier - and so so so much faster to earn 140 euro to buy a boost then to spend months progressing mythic raid with 0 guarantee that you will get CE cause your guild can implode any time
you can earn liek 20 euro / hour working in mcdonalds in most of "old " EU countries . so its like 7 hours of work / 1 day on the weekend vs hundreds of hours of wiping in game.
people like OP just value their time .
i personaly see now reaso to buy full mythci boost - maybe mythic mount ?
as for aotc boosts when mounts are there - they are soooo worth to spend that 50k gold to get mount verus tens of hours of failed pugs to get it.
Boosting is in a similar way cheating like certain Addons are cheating from my perspective. It’s something that is allowed and people use it to get to the finish line easier, but it’s not really something they’ve achieved themselves and it hurts the game in many ways.
For example it’s also allowed in many single player games to use Mods to just skip to the end, but it’s still cheating, even if it’s allowed. I think in a MMORPG cheating should not be allowed, and they should change the rules
That seems a bit blue-eyed to me.
Blizzard didn’t advertise or encourage using the Real Money Auction House in Diablo III, but they did lower all the rare item drops in the game to account for the presence of the Real Money Auction House. As a consequence you were playing with your hands tied behind your back if you didn’t use the Real Money Auction House, figuratively speaking.
It’s the same in WoW. The economy is heavily inflated and gold prices on both products and services are much higher than what can realistically be acquired from merely playing the game as it appears. Rather, the design assumes that players engage with the WoW Token as an entry point to the economy.
Blizzard don’t have to advertise or actively encourage that behavior. It comes about as a natural conclusion to playing the game. Just like the Real Money Auction House in Diablo III.
I don’t see the tinfoil conspiracy.
The OP lost 2.5 million gold. If Blizzard doesn’t reimburse him, then he’s obviously in the market for gold. Where’s he going to get that?
Like I said earlier, then any gold that is lost is gold lost from players. Those unfortunate players will of course have to get gold again somehow. And Blizzard are the only shop on the block.
I say it’s immoral behavior, but I’m cool with also just calling it a conflict of interest as Blizzard clearly benefits from not resolving a given incident for all parties involved, despite being the provider of customer support for the players.
They can conjure gold out of thin air, they can track all trades in the game. They have the means, but lack the will.
If those level 1 characters are seen as shady, why does Blizzard facilitate a public chat for them to advertise on?
Why allow boosting and other services if everyone thinks it’s unbefitting of players to engage in it?
It strikes me as weird to push the responsibility onto the players when the game and all that it entails is the responsibility of Blizzard.
(Wont quite everything to prevent making large wall of text replies).
And this didnt happen before? People buying boosts has existed as long as online games existed pretty much.
And why should Blizzard offer bailouts for I am sorry…for “players stupidity”? If I go into a casino, waste all my money, go out and realize that “ops, dont have enough money to pay the bills”. You think I will simply go back to their door and ask “Hey…lads. Can I get some of the gold I lost there to pay my eletricity bill? plz?”.
OP gambled with a grey booster and got burned. Nothing else to discuss.
To prevent them from spamming the /2 chat or LFG Windows. Blizz tried fighting before and figured out that “if there is a demand, there I will be a supply” so they just filtered it away instead of that fruitless fight against the wind.
Back in the day when services channel was about to be added, I argued against it that it would give some people the impression “if Blizzard creates the channel, then they also take responsibility for the services offered there”… guess I was right.
Blizzard is not responsible HOW you play the game as long as you are not using 3rd party cheating software. They need to make sure that the server is online and there is nothing physically hindering me from accessing it. Now whenever I chose to join a raiding guild to get CE OR play stupid and decide to get boosted…well you can’t cure stupid unfortunately…
This is not even an accident though. There is no reason to trade millions of gold to a shady level 1 new account. That’s just common sense. What if you buy something by accident on the auction house? That is an actual accident. Should Blizzard now have a refund policy for gold you waste by accident in the game? At some point there is also some personal responsibility of a player to not consciously give millions of gold to a level 1 spam account too.
Also, if wow gold is really equivalent to real money, then it would also fall under EU regulation, and all wow gold would need to have a Euro-Tag next to it, and every drop that you buy boosts for would need a real money price tag.
And on top of that I really don’t want Boosting to be an officially supported transaction, because then they can never take boosting out of the game again.
