Yea I did.
Point being you’re using the example coming from Africa in a discussion about something happening in a country that is already couple decades deep into affirmative action.
Yea I did.
Point being you’re using the example coming from Africa in a discussion about something happening in a country that is already couple decades deep into affirmative action.
It still speaks to why the “best candidate for the job” is a flawed and subjective concept though doesn’t it?
You’re forgetting the factor that women can be equally as qualified as men. You’re basically dismissing every single equally-qualified woman by saying that.
No I’m not, I’m saying the deck is stacked against them in my example because men set the criteria of what the “best candidate” is. Unless you can point to any female fighter pilots with literal big balls.
No more subjective than the baseless arguments that you are putting forward, along with your juxtapositions and analogies that simply do not work or are not really relevant.
Did they seriously… like Serious seriously come up with a position that gets shortened as “DIE” lol?
Also “Diversity” is probably the worst concept we as a people have ever come up with.
Why are we treating any one for any reason “differently” than someone else?
Why does something like this even need to exsist? Just be decent to each other.
Nope, best candidate for a job is in itself kind of objective concept, considering the job does not require particular race or gender, only objectively measurable qualifications.
I dont disagree that certain groups might be more behind than others when being considered for being the best candidate, but at the same time the issue is already being addressed, so it begs the question when actually the start will be considered equal ?
Or will the victim card still be played for decades to come ?
No I’m not, I’m saying the deck is stacked against them in my example because men set the criteria of what the “best candidate” is. Unless you can point to any female fighter pilots with literal big balls.
No, you didn’t even consider equally-qualified women existing. And your example of criterias set by men is completely hollow, the only realistic example of such a thing is when men doing the hiring (not the ones writing the criterias) don’t hire a woman because of a prejudice against time off work while pregnant, or other such silly delusions.
That’s what a REAL example looks like. But that isn’t a criteria, anywhere. That’s just individuals with prejudices.
That would be the ideal outcome, if she’s truly as competent as her CV would normally indicate. But that limited time to do it in is just insanely short-sighted by them, and basically counteracts what an inclusion officer should be doing which is to make sure competence and availability are the only two things that matters.
It’s a real shame, they’ve set themselves up for failure with this new-hire…
Exactly, but this is completely par for the course. I saw the same within my workplace but fortunately I have a non-insane CEO who went all the way up to and including “let’s hire the most competent regardless of anyhthing - HR and developers gets the names blanked out until the interview - and put offices all over the world so we can have diversity” and no further.
Compliance regarding criminal records etc. is handled by a 3rd party which was a little uncomfortable to be honest, but now that I’m inside I see their perspective and it does make sense.
But I sense - like a stench upon the air - that this is not what’s going to happen here.
The victim card is going to be played for a very long time. There are a lot of spineless people in the world with no fight in them, they just want to be seen as the victim all of the time.
Nope, best candidate for a job is in itself kind of objective concept,
Really? Please describe the best candidate for the Chief Operating officer of a multinational company. It’s impossible to measure these things objectively.
My statement was simple and clear
Except you have rather unsubtly moved the goal posts…
best fit for the job
BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB
Yet still not the BEST QUALIFIED PERSON FOR THE JOB…so, nice subjective smokescreen still safely in place, for the ultra conservatives.
The victim card is going to be played for a very long time
The irony is priceless…
Really? Please describe the best candidate for the Chief Operating officer of a multinational company. It’s impossible to measure these things objectively.
Oh look, now you’ve gone back to talking about the headhunting practices and hiring with experience as a requirement. Which, your point is completely valid for. But your point is nothing but hollow when it comes to hiring from educational levels.
No, you didn’t even consider equally-qualified women existing.
Please don’t tell me what I did and didn’t consider. I most definitely did consider it.
You’ve been moving the goalposts quite a lot yourself in this thread, so it seems.
Maybe you have learning difficulties, or maybe you just got dropped on your head. Either way, you’re embarrassing.
BigBazz was bang on when he labelled you sexist and bigoted. Weird little bloke.
Why is everyone fighting about this?
I understand the time issue Bewarê brought up, it’s a valid concern.
It’s also a valid concern that the people getting hired are actually able to function in their job either due to experience or education.
We all don’t want them to hire 2 time world champion sandwich maker from Subway with no understanding of the game industry just because of what that person identify as, do we?
You’ve been moving the goalposts quite a lot yourself in this thread
Nope, nothing has changed on my standpoint…going all the way back to exactly the same conversations, when all the ultra conservatives had a meltdown about Pelagos…not to mention Thiernax and Qadarin…at the beginning of the Xpac.
sexist and bigoted
I’m a white, cishet emale…so by your rules, criticising my opinion would make you sexist and bigoted…remember those are your rules: a white cishet male criticising another white cishet male is supposedly racist, sexist and bigoted.
Don’t blame me that ultra conservative white supremacist rules are ludicrous, your lot thought them up, so that no-one could criticise them…absolutely nobody, like ever, ever, ever.
Honestly all I’m taking from this conversation is that people at the extremes of the spectrum at both ends are equally laughable.
Nobody cares.
Alrighty then, cuck
Thank you for removing any deniability as to your motives, in public.
equally laughable.
You’re still one of my favourite grumpy pandas.