Well not kill them completely, just allow cross faction play. I mean you can even forbid opposite faction players from visiting capitals and settlements, just allow players of opposite factions to join the same guilds.
Yeah I understand. But i dont think its about racials at this point…just allow cross faction pve.
That’s the key issue here : Blizzard is stubborn about Cross faction play…
I think the issue with cross faction play is that this game has always been 2 factions at war with eachother. How would that fit into the story anymore if we can play together.
I wouldnt personally mind playing with alliance players. I could finally play with some of my ally friends.
No way,rather remove racials ,dont want cross faction thing besides in Oribos.
I think the issue with cross faction play is that this game has always been 2 factions at war with eachother. How would that fit into the story anymore if we can play together.
The same way it did in Legion when we said “screw factions let’s handle this together as our classes to save the world”
All the “faction war” does for us is to provide terrible BFA stories. I would GLADLY be rid of that rubbish to focus on the real threats.
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No thanks.Cross faction only in oribos for the sake of ‘‘greater threat’’
The story keeps telling us that we have to work together with the opposite faction though, and after seeing how bad the bfa faction war was I’d rather never have one again
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If they wouldn’t nerf the aforementioned racial then a lot of semi-hardcore and tryhard guilds would expect their raiders to race change over to dwarf, atleast that is what I assume this change is about.
The Kyrian change is strange though. They added alternative options to remove bleeds in the fight. I guess Blizzard realised that on lower difficulties it is possible for people to remove bleeds without having to care for the remove mechanic at all.
After I checked the article the only real significant change is from Stone Legion Generals. On the other bosses the dwarven racial can still be used to remove a variety of bleeds.
That part got nerfed pretty fast if I recall it right, AND it only affected priests. All other classes had ways to counter it without needing rocket jump. Even on their world first kill only Method’s priests were goblins.
As far as I know the only class that was pre-dominantly orc in recent years WFR were hunters. All melee classes were Blood Elves or Trolls.
You also have to keep in mind that raids are meant to last for atleast half a year. Nullifying a mechanic in M+ isn’t an issue, because there are many other mechanics in a dungeon that becomes more threatening than dispellable effects because the affixes and key level determines which ability is the actually threatening one. The same does not apply to raids because they do not scale after mythic, so they have to be more careful in what mechanics can be nullified with racials.
Also keep in mind that both factions have access to priests, and thus mass dispel. Stoneform is unique because it removes bleeds, something that will only be available to players who join Kyrian. Being a dwarf kyrian paladin in that fight just means you can remove bleeds almost constantly thanks to stoneform, vial, bubble and blessing of protection.
Yeah, and keep in mind that Alliance got a free heroic level item from the quest “against overwhelming odds” before it was hotfixed. In BFA none of the horde racials were a big thing (yes, not even Jaina, since Alliance players had access to the troll racial as well) while Alliance made pretty good use out of both Stoneform and Shadow Meld in M+.
It is not just black and white, it is more (morally) gray these days.
They already do in PvP with mercenary mode in place. Horde players can queue as mercenaries and get faction changed when they join in.
It does not really need a lore explanation either. It was always common practise for the factions to unite against a greater threat, while in the background faction conflict still raged on. They can leave instanced PvP, world content and storytelling to have two factions, while instanced PvE, and only instanced PvE, would be cross faction.
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I would say that logic is flawed. I mean, every single expansion could be summarized this way : both factions are at war. Suddenly, a world threat appears, so both factions are working together to kick said threat out of Azeroth. Once it’s done, repeat step 1 and follow along once more.
I have to say it’s been quite some time that I feel like factions serve no purpose other than they always existed.
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It’s not my logic its just something im thinking might be the reasoning behind all this. The lines have been blurry for a while but it always goes back to horde and alliance being at war one way or another so idk. I personally wont mind if i can play with alliance. Just give me the ability to understand them as well without a potion then too 
it’s almost like they don’t want people skipping over the core mechanics of a fight.
they’ve never done this before tho. made a racial irrelevant when it was too good for a raid fight.
oh wait
they did
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Imagine thinking that a company whose sole purpose is to make money, is bothered to have a favourite faction. 
Exorsus 
Waiting for players reroll ally, nerf why they reroll and they reroll again - double profit.© Bobby 
So why do they encourage the last few remaining Alliance players to transfer to Horde instead of encouraging the huge Horde playerbase to go Alliance?
Doesn’t really make sense. Why focus on 1 guild when they could do this at a far larger scale by just making Alliance competitive.
To be honest, if people are just hopping factions to constantly get the best racials for each mechanic then I’m rather pleased to see that they are going to suffer for trying to gimp the system.
Plus who cares what these people do? They’re not important and people who flock to the other faction because they are perceived to be ‘better’ are frankly the problem here, and the ones who are to blame for Faction Imbalance. If people had just thought for themselves, you wouldn’t see this…
But yeah, Game Mechanic that renders a Boss fight trivial is nerfed. Nothing new here.
Is it really gimping when people want to make life just a little bit easier for themselves? Also, it is their choice. It is how they play. We aren’t affected by things they do - just the things Blizzard thinks they need to do to curb some imaginary problem.
Alliance already tend to have the better racials for PvE, and stronger ones for PvP. I do not think that racials is the way to go.
The faction itself needs to be made more appealing. Racial tuning will only help for short term bloat I feel.
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I don’t mind that, having the races being balanced is good. However it’s beyond ridiculous how they don’t make any attempts at all to fix the faction imbalance or give us cross faction PvE. Totally biased lead dev.
Everybody knew it will be happening, don’t act so surprised.