Nah just remove paladin from game. That would be fair imo
You mean like every other class in the game? Remove daze dont belong.
Nah bro. ranged 50% aoe daze with high scaling on both spell power and attack power is already overperforming as is, don’t need to make it even more oppressive.
I’m sorry, cunix. As someone who has defended paladins with you in previous posts, I think you’re 100% wrong here. You want a near perma ranged bounce slow that slows for 70%?
The slow is like 10 seconds, so you want 5 seconds delay before we can apply a 3 person slow again?
No, Avengers shield does in fact not need a buff. I am all for paladin improvements. Especially in PvE where most melee Classes are doing almost double our DMG (according to warcraftlogs). But Avengers shield is exactly where it should be.
Well pvp wise i understand but pve wise just feels meh tbh u rather run exorcist all the time than do avenger shield (Prot pally) not ret shield swapping 
worst part you cant get out of the slow even, if the daze was removed then the cd is ok to reduce idc. the Daze slow need to be removed
Lmao,so please delete orc racial, Its to OP, cant Play the game as alliance rogue. Same Like will of the forsaken. Stop cry as horde Player
Paladin sucks in PVP right now.
Im not the one who made a whole thread crying about Avenges shield not being on even lower CD, also you are complaining about things that been there for 20years and oh, if racials are so damn OP why over 60% player base are alliance in ERA…shut it if you cant form a relevant argument and go all but but what about
lmao read my reply above
Again how hard is it to understand that it is in terms of pve i do not edited by moderatorabout the daze i could not care less about a 10 sec daze in pve but it is dog in terms of pve.
The only reason why so many alience on era its coz most pvers are here. We talking about pvp , not pve m8. Most pvp, world pvp players roll horde coz pvp racials and coz 99%of alience player are pve andys so its easy to gank them
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Yeah like even tho the firemaw cluster is pvp 90% of ally is just pve players.
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And the daze is extremely strong for pvp, even more so that you can use it with dmg build to keep people away or from running on top of being aoe, duration is just way to long with the burst paladin can do and other utility they have.
Paladins are in great spot right now a lot of their short comings got fixed, dmg, healing even 100% viable tanking. No need to make them bull overload.
Hmm fair enough, for PvE I can see it needing a shorter cd, sure. Idk if we got skills that change in cd and effect from pvp and PvE hmm.
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Well again, like i said i do not care about a daze. When it comes pve terms, but i do get why it can op in terms of pvp. But there is 0 reason to pick avenger shield in pve atm.
people want to keep paladins being auto attak class with 0 slow 0 gap closer 0 evberything .
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