Balance druid in pvp is disgusting(Help)

I honestly don’t understand how it is that you see boomie as such a trash spec in PvP?
It is understandable that boomie is not as strong in 1v1’s compared to other specs, and thats just because of how the spec works. And that is okay.
I consistently burn enemies health in 3’s cause that is where Boomie shines.
As for Bg’s i’d assume it’s the same case there, though i can’t say for sure due to me not playing boomie in RBG’s

Wild Charge, Dash, Typhoon, Bear form to peel?
You don’t always need an op ability to flee in PvP. Also few ppl do 1v1’s and quit the game because of it.

Honestly never heard anyone complaining about boomie on PvP. I guess you’re getting this from the people who are playing skirmishes instead of rated arena.

My own opinion; Boomie is fine to play in PvP, as long as you’re not forced to 1v1 on an open plain, with no ability to LoS.

You don’t understand, because you don’t play with Moonkin for the last 15 years.
It is obvious that you are new to the game. When you say “that’s how the spec works”, I understand that you begin playing after Pandaria. No that is NOT how the spec works or suppose to work. Moonkin is a DPS and makes everything, cooking, making potions, charm animals, But damage.
If you were playing long enough you’d probably understand.
Plus when saying that you never heard anyone complaining about Moonkin, it’s because you came to the game long after they quit playing, for this particular reason.
Moonkin has been degraded at least 500%. In pvp its literally a joke! You nuke ANY spec with everything a Moonking can provide, and it barely gets the opponent below 1% . And you get hit 3 times by a mage, or a demon hunter and you are dead. 4 times by any other spec.
Wild Charge, Dash, Typhoon work no more, because as Moonkin got degraded, all other specs got upgraded and they catch up now. There is not even a way to escape. And there is no logic behind "as long as you’re not forced to 1v1 ".
That is the point of the game to have equal powers in the same category.
The least they should do is increasing all damage at least + 200% . May sound a lot but you will never understand unless you go in the arena or battleground with Moonkin. A so fragile spec like Moonkin that gets wiped off with 3 blows, needs to have something. I am playing pvp 15 years and my first character was Moonkin. I have keep pvp screenshot results you know, and numbers don’t lie.

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I don’t understand why you need to bring up how the class used to be, when they game was very clearly different back then.
With how the game is NOW, there is no reason to increase the overall damage output by 200%, like at all…
No spec in the game can or will be dead by 3 or 4 hits by any other class, in a 1v1 situation.

Give an example? also what do you mean by that they “work no more”, cause they very clearly do…

Of course there is, why would i see that spec in the context that i will only be in 1v1 situations, or balance it with that in mind? 2’s, 3’s and RGB’s are the only rated versions of pvp in the game (PvP islands aswell), and in all of those you are playing with other people who are healing and fighting with you.

No it is not.
If this was the case, that would mean there would ONLY be one class/spec. So that players could win because of skill and not because of what the spec brought along to the fight.
But because there are so many specs in the game currently, with many different builds. That gives the individual players the possibility to mix and match combs to gain an advantage.

I get that you don’t think i know what i am talking about, because i am “new” to the game. And because i haven’t seen the spec evolve throughout the game.
But i very clearly do understand how the game works NOW, now how it used to be.
And you saying that the spec has been nerfed to the ground, while ALL other specs have been seeing buffs. Is simply untrue.

I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to prove by saying that you “have screenshots” and that “numbers don’t lie”, as it holds no value.

I feel that you’re point of view is a bit confused, cause the spec is completely fine as it is RIGHT NOW. It’s not overpowered and it’s not underpowered.
The reason you see it as underpowered, is because it’s not apart of the current FotM in high rated PvP. Or perhaps you miss the spec having op elements.

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I am top damage every bg on my boomy. I did 68 million damage in 1 ashran game. Our damage is far from poor

Until someone targets you and you just drop dead like a turkey for the slaughter. People will 2-3 shot you while you play with your little DoTs which barely do any damage. GG i’d say :stuck_out_tongue:

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great…
my cat can also be no1 in bgs. It doesn’t matter if all your dmg is 2k dot ticks on 40 people.
balance dmg is absolutely garbage. Rot doesn’t exist anymore because the passive azerites already heal or shield for more.

The only damage boomie has is pop incarn with 100 power and nuke 3 starsurges if you lucky with essence proc.
If all are critting (never happens) someone just lost 50% of their hp awesome, that is like 2 cast for mage when he is not even bursting lul

boomie is atm pretty bad, you can see that also in arena participation

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I believe that you are top in dmg, but only if you knew, that this damage is distributed to all players. A lot of players get a little damage and the average looks alot but in reallity it isn’t. Overal damage of moonfire and sunfire don’t even hurt oponents. they never go below 99%. Every oponents stamina regeneration is greater than the damage of moonfire and sunfire.That’s stupid!
I also would like if it’s possible to link us your balance druid character.
It is not that I don’t believe that you have a balance druid character, but I find it hard to believe that people who actually played balance druid in pvp are satisfied the way the spec has turned out to be… In pvp everyone is searching for a Moonkin to make a frag …But at least we got [Charm Woodland Creature] … Are we serious ???

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Look… I comprehend that you don’t understand, and I told you why!
I don’t believe that you are stupid, but you haven’t played balance druid in pvp.
And you’ll always posting that you don’t understand, until you start playing balance druid in pvp. I am addressing the subject to people who do understand, and want to do something about it.

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Balance is good for bgs and bad on arena, there was a time on MoP that Moonkin was op on arena pre rework

How is this possible? No it’s not good in BGS, I have Balance, with over 150 HK and I’m telling you, it’s not.
It’s good for giving points to the oponents.

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I reached 2.1 on rbgs as balance with my eyes closed on bfa

how long ago?

bfa season 1

balance was always like this. In legion and now in bfa we had some improvements. at least we do some dmg now. we got solar beam in wod for example. balance has some utulity spells now. Displacer Beast was excellent for pvp in legion. I believe people want and miss this kind of utulity options. I don’t like current moonkin form bonus. I would prefer haste or crit bonus. I mean 15 percent chance of instant lunar strike is not the best option. But it’s something, I guess. And being caster has it’s own disadvantages. Our meat shield is not usefull in most cases. it’s not something like lock shield, or mage shield. but it gives us some def. And we can’t cast heals in moonkin form like we did in legion. if we take resto affinity we should able to heal in all forms regardless of main spec

No, it wasn’t always like this, simply because the game didn’t began in legion.
They took away critical spells, and degraded enormmously the ones already have. This is a fault in the game, that touches the limits of stupidity, and must be fixed.
Logically speaking, there is no reason for such injustice. And the game has gotten worse in many other sections as well not only Balance Druid, and it’s not only me saying this, it’s all the people in the full servers of WOW Classic.
Instaed of starting a new game to draw new people for more subscriptions, they ruined WOW. Greedy a s hls

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