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I almost felt that as if it happened to me

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Yes, I hate people who INT, I report too, but I have the impression that Blizzard defends “noob” and “casual” players, and does not understand that the int is toxic for the team

I just depelte a key because the tank was doing anything, we wonder if it was trolling or he was drunk

I reported it but I’m almost certain he won’t get any sanctions.

Suck it up and go next

Here’s something I don’t get…
Someone that’s removed gets a 30 min penalty, but the replacement can instantly join and usually phases in near where the team is, not always at the very beginning of the instance.

So why even have this penalty?
Why not let people join and leave as they please? 1-2 min penalty max.
Just let people find another party if they don’t like the players or the dungeon.
Going in and out should be smooth. This isn’t hardcore. You already allow people to literally join 5 sec before the final boss dies. There is no downside to “oh but then people wouldn’t get to do the whole dungeon from the start”, something that most even don’t like?

You could make it so that the first time someone leaves a party they get 0 penalty and instantly join a new dungeon. If they leave again, within 5 min of entering the dungeon, they get a 1 min penalty. Every time they do it again within a 5min window, stacking up +1min to the next penalty. That removes the abuse for mentally ill trolls tanks and healers that would just spam “enter/leave” without any penalty, because we all know those type of insane people do exist and absolutely would do it for their own brainrot entertainment.

Because that will make you think twice before engaging in disruptive behavior. While 2 min penalty would make you take a pee break and that’s about it.

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The point is you DID NOT disbehave… you’re the good guy, the trolls ganged up to vote you out because THEY were toxic.

I sometimes think that the kick feature should not happen within the first 5mins? as 2 seems to short and also maybe give Freehold the same treatment as Plaguefall and have an invis wall up which comes down after a boss is killed? But i can understand some wanting to skip its a hard choice but you should not have been punished OP just because the tanks choice to pull like they did.

And how often does that happens? Once in a never to me.

Fair, must’ve changed sometime then, its been a while since I pugged. I remember it being so fast at the very start that sometimes you didn’t even get the chance to read what the popup was before it disappeared and a ‘xy was kicked from the group’ showed up on your chatlog.

I imagine that the initiating votekicks on people demanding you get kicked still works tho

Guys… and girls… su… it up. 3 players can kick you, meaning that the majority dont like your style.

S… it up and take a long pee and que again. You can argue from now untill christmas that they were in same guilds without any documentation, or they were friends without any documentation, or that they only press yes because you think they mindless do that and that fact applies to everyone else than the snowflake getting kicked.

You got removed. 3 players removed you. Thats the fact. Eat s… and get going qeuing a new dgs and hopefully the world would not be as cruel to you next time.

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if they want to speed rund they can and you have to follow .

Another shining example of the wonderful community you will find here.

Other than the game itself being unusually terrible, you now have an elitist core of gate keepers. God forbid you do not conform to their ideals, your opinion is invalidated and you shall be made pariah for your transgressions against their cultist ways.

Thankfully it’s 2025 and there are better games to play now, so these sad people can have their bad expansion and enjoy abusing each other while normal people stay away. Recipe for long term success right there. What else can I say, there is 0% chance I will resub, you think that people will spend their time - let alone money, for this? No.

Nice to know. Gl. If you played the game you would see alot of nice people, but instead you believe that every dgs are bad and players as well. Whatever you do, you will still have to grow thicker skin.

Save your judgements for yourself.

But he is a monk not a pala :stuck_out_tongue:

You just proved his point.

or meby better idd stop afk do u part do more dmg deam tank as tank my self saw it lot dps lower tank mean come on

I think all dungeons should get the Plaguefall treatment. Dungeons are a far cry from what they used to be originally which was an instance you could explore, pick and choose which bosses to kill for loot as a full clear could take an entire evening.

Nowadays dungeons are an exp grind, and then a pipe that leads you to doing m+.

In m+ you have to kill all bosses, you don’t get to skip, and they indeed design modern dungeons to require all boss kills to access the final boss. The skip in Plaguefall was obviously unintentional, so they fixed it. I believe every dungeon should have a required list of bosses to kill, even if some will be treated as bonus bosses, especially for content that isn’t niche legacy content like timewalking. Freehold boss should be locked behind all bosses, that’s for sure.

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I am sorry, but what does this have to do with gatekeeping, elitists or whatever?
at least 3 out of 5 people(the group’s majority) didnt want said person in the group and thats that. End of discussion.

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Literally every single time I do any dungeon.
Asking “could you not do this/ that/ go here/ there, this is how you pull/ LOS” any advice, anything I say is taken as if I’m on a crazy power trip and people, grown men, have a psychotic crashout meltdown, as if someone was yelling to them “OBEY MY ORDERS I COMMAND YOU, YOU USELESS PATHETIC STUPID INSECT!!11”… instant kick, sometimes followed by the basic whispers like “F U / who do you think u are?? st -and- fu loser”

…and more stuff the filter won’t let me type here, all for giving people TIPS. These manchildren are so fragile with a inferior superiority complex that’s exploding due to being anonymously untouchable online, clearly unable to take neutral advice, seeing it all as a personal attack and probably having flashbacks to when their teacher in 3rd grade or stepdad scolded them, foaming at their mouth at me “who tf u think u are??! respect me REEEEE!!!”

It’s pathetic how blizzard enforces these disfunctional inept mentally stunted hyper low self esteem psycho clown babies. Period.

People are nicer in classic. Leave this retail it is not even world of warcraft any more. Only in name. If you want a genuine Wow feeling back go to the anniversary realms. People just walk up and give you items and gold its really cool. Gold is harder to get so that really healps.