Let’s not act as if Blizzard goes through thousands of hours of footage.
Beta Testing should be for the sake of testing, not to attract free advertisement. Fact is that there were a bunch of Streamers that got invites to Classic that never did just a modicum of testing, but were there for pure advertisement.
We’ll have less than 2 months of beta testing… That means you need a comprehensive amount of people spanning many different systems and setups to get a decent picture of how a piece of software performs. Not to mention tester that knows what they’re doing and actively try to break the system rather than you know … encouraging all that have beta access to join in on a pointless PvP match between the factions in Hillsbrad.
What you seems to have issues to understand, is that there is not just streamers in the beta, there is a few streamers, maybe 50 at most, then there is thousands of normal players getting the invite.
Streamers are in to advertise, that is their purpose in the beta, the rest of the players invited, are invited to test.
Both are important for a company, cause you know, their purpose it to earn money, if they werent, there would be no game.
And now beta is up, they have just proven my point, the first thing asmon does is get a group to try to kill Fel Reaver at level 60. Waste of time, waste of testing time, and it’s why people like me should and need to be on Beta.
I’m even more disappointed even though I knew it was gonna happen, to see it, it still hurts.
That just isnt true Roxyfoxy, its just content creators and their friends/family. Theres an entire discord that has content creators in requesting access from blizzard.
There’s some streamer that streamed Private Server illegaly, and they have an access. I don’t know a single Classic player with beta access who are not a streamer.
So basicly, if you want a beta key, you have to stream illegal content from private server on Twitch, Blizzard will give you a key. If you are a legit Classic player, pay your subscription and sh** up.
Theres people on there who haven’t even played WoW classic or TBC at all and got in just cause friends so. It’s obviously a joke, as stated in my original post, this is just for monetary gain and we risk devaluing the quality of the product due to 0 knowledge or proper testing being performed.
Average player doesn’t play the game 24/7 even if he plays since vanilla. Majority if alpha/beta will be to people that can invest a lot of time into it - to play, to push marketing and so on. Although Covid created more opportunities for 24/7 I doubt Blizzard will want wide beta access.
And then they will make a “confirmed not a bug list” because people that “remember how it was” remembered it incorrectly. There can be few memes from streamers but overall those will be more time-hardcore people
And what would you test exactly that will not be “tested” one way or another during beta? Classic beta was level and content limited and was mostly focused on stability and generic consistency. It never was intended to beta-test every quest and every instance and every number.
For Shadowlands they initially limited invites to those that had good beta-testing history and opening just later on via giveaway invites. I assume it will be somewhat similar now, especially if the beta will be short.
I doubt you remember everything as it was back then as human memory isn’t perfect (and I doubt you were keen on memorizing the game instead of playing). The key questions would be - are you willing to spend 6-8 hours a day, nearly every day to play the beta? Then if you are so keen on it - will you not suffer a burnout when beta ends?
To be near-guaranteed beta access you need good beta history and to get good beta history you need early beta access. Simple!
You’d be surprised how tryhard those speedrunners are. They’re not good at the game, which is why they burnt out from retail (content itself started getting challenging, rather than the preparation for it), but they have too much time to spend on the game so vanilla and to a lesser extent TBC are perfect for them. They’d play the beta to death.
However, streamers do the same. They’re not very good in most cases and play the game to death. Difference is, they also broadcast it to thousands of players.
I honestly don’t want in, well, it’d be nice if nothing but a tip off Blizzard hat to me for continue belief in their products since Lost Vikings, but eh. I feel that I’d rather not want to burn myself out on TBC before it even launches but use the opportunity to farm gold and mats.
Taking into consideration what you and your guild did during AQ launch (open cross faction collusion on a pvp realm to prevent others farming silithids) and the fact you have admitted to playing on private servers, I don’t really think you are the ideal candidate.
If you found a bug or clever use of game mechanics that benefitted you and your guild you’d likely use it rather than get it fixed.
Please receive this information fully and escalate to the correct people responsible.
I am Varbane, GM of a horde guild on classic WoW, Shazzrah server that has placed since launch in the Hardcore category of wow, attaining server first kills in all content, except naxx, where we placed 2nd. We’ve consistently been horde 1st speedrunning multiple times and have remained competitive all the way until P6, where we decided to take a more backseat.
I am very concerned with the handling of beta access for TBC classic, as if it’s done in the same way as Classic WoW was, it’s prioritised to content creator’s with zero, or lackluster knowledge of TBC and although it attracts attention to the game from a monetary perspective, it hurts the potential the game has for the more hardcore player on launch. These content creators show that for the most part, they do 0 testing and literally just mess around to have fun and showcase the game.
If someone like me were to get beta access, you’d receive someone committed whos going to go to great lengths on the beta to test ALL raids, dungeons, class mechanics, items in all various forms based on my extensive knowledge. I fully cleared TBC back in the day, and have also fully completed two separate private servers as well with highly buffed content. I am a very knowledgeable, well managed individual who would be a great asset to the testing of your TBC server.
Please take these considerations seriously, and please allow me to add value to the TBC Beta.
Kind regards,
Loyal gamer since 2005.
Varbane
(I have been advised to post this to the forums, as I submitted this via a ticket originally, but got directed here instead)
Please receive this information fully and escalate to the correct people responsible.
I am Varbane, GM of a horde guild on classic WoW, Shazzrah server that has placed since launch in the Hardcore category of wow, attaining server first kills in all content, except naxx, where we placed 2nd. We’ve consistently been horde 1st speedrunning multiple times and have remained competitive all the way until P6, where we decided to take a more backseat.
I am very concerned with the handling of beta access for TBC classic, as if it’s done in the same way as Classic WoW was, it’s prioritised to content creator’s with zero, or lackluster knowledge of TBC and although it attracts attention to the game from a monetary perspective, it hurts the potential the game has for the more hardcore player on launch. These content creators show that for the most part, they do 0 testing and literally just mess around to have fun and showcase the game.
If someone like me were to get beta access, you’d receive someone committed whos going to go to great lengths on the beta to test ALL raids, dungeons, class mechanics, items in all various forms based on my extensive knowledge. I fully cleared TBC back in the day, and have also fully completed two separate private servers as well with highly buffed content. I am a very knowledgeable, well managed individual who would be a great asset to the testing of your TBC server.
Please take these considerations seriously, and please allow me to add value to the TBC Beta.
Kind regards,
Loyal gamer since 2005.
Varbane
(I have been advised to post this to the forums, as I submitted this via a ticket originally, but got directed here instead)
Imagine , you were colluding with the alliance for scarab lord moving gold paying alliance players to protect your do anything against tos and now you cry cause you didn’t get beta ! Ahahhahaha pathetic horde scum
Please receive this information fully and escalate to the correct people responsible.
I am Varbane, GM of a horde guild on classic WoW, Shazzrah server that has placed since launch in the Hardcore category of wow, attaining server first kills in all content, except naxx, where we placed 2nd. We’ve consistently been horde 1st speedrunning multiple times and have remained competitive all the way until P6, where we decided to take a more backseat.
I am very concerned with the handling of beta access for TBC classic, as if it’s done in the same way as Classic WoW was, it’s prioritised to content creator’s with zero, or lackluster knowledge of TBC and although it attracts attention to the game from a monetary perspective, it hurts the potential the game has for the more hardcore player on launch. These content creators show that for the most part, they do 0 testing and literally just mess around to have fun and showcase the game.
If someone like me were to get beta access, you’d receive someone committed whos going to go to great lengths on the beta to test ALL raids, dungeons, class mechanics, items in all various forms based on my extensive knowledge. I fully cleared TBC back in the day, and have also fully completed two separate private servers as well with highly buffed content. I am a very knowledgeable, well managed individual who would be a great asset to the testing of your TBC server.
Please take these considerations seriously, and please allow me to add value to the TBC Beta.
Kind regards,
Loyal gamer since 2005.
Varbane
(I have been advised to post this to the forums, as I submitted this via a ticket originally, but got directed here instead)
I mean, let’s be honest guys, attacking the dude for private servers is just petty. Most of them from my gameplay experience are ran in countries that blizzard can’t touch, and b. Their better worked on their expansion usually or meant for fun, that’s really it. There’s a difference between playing a private server for fun’s or because you want to play a style/unique offered way, and being the one hosting it. Pretty sure Blizzard can’t do anything to a player unless their directly related or subjected to the creation and management of the private server (which then makes you subject to tos violation) so can we not be petty over that? But anyways, I think this thread is pointless ngl, beta invites are random and selective, you either get the random, or get the hand out. I’m sure it’ll be easier on the next Wave and from my seeings, there’s only dungeon content in the beta and probably if there is raids it’s for tuning and most likely will be done like any other testing of them with blizzard exclusive testers.
