I’m not sure what you mean, can you explain it in more detail?
Maybe my suggestion would be a bit too powerful since you’d be able to just spam the searing nightmare button, and you’d get about a 33% damage boost over time on large packs, since you won’t have to waste every 3rd SN on refreshing mind sear. So maybe the talent could be something more like:
- Searing nightmare refreshes mind sear cast, searing nightmare does 33% less damage, searing nightmare shadows do 33% more damage (or generate more insanity for more SN casts). Something like that
That way you can limit the large pack damage without hurting the small pack damage too much. Overall I am just trying to fix the weak small pack aoe damage, without making the large pack aoe damage too op (or too weak). I think this does solve it, and it would be nice to have something more imaginative, but I’m trying to keep it simple and easy so it might have a slim chance of actually happening one day
Idk, if you mean searing nightmare should be replaced with that kind of ability, then wouldn’t it make it a bit too similar to ele shaman? I kind of like that shadow priest is a bit different.
not replaced only that they should add one new aoe spell
I think what blizzard needs to do is redesign shadow completely after this expack is the worst aoe spec to play as of 2021
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thellanah canyou please stop necriong this post with your fiftheen alts?
You know there are sites where you can check someones alt characters right?..3/4 of these posts are you talking to yourself…its getting a bit sad man.
am talking about when the packs is too much for misery to handle when a mage can just stand do blizzard and druid just starfall and paladin just divinestorm and we are there still with that odd lvl 30 choice that helps nothing in gameplay.
blizzard needs to add something or make searing Nightmare a baseline. Like a mage can do 70% of their damage in to one ability while am trying to apply dots that does nothing or searing nightmare that does 1 third of what frost mages blizzard do or paladins divine storm does. Their excuse is to buff a dead gameplay mechanic such as surrender to madness and just to hide the fact this version of shadow is sad compared to WOD or Cata’s Shadow Priest. Blizzard just don’t want passive damage classes yet they buff passive damage on other classes, but nerf the living heck out of Shadowy Apparitions what good does a void bolt do against 30 adds fight this is not a rant am just waiting for their actions to make a better gameplay for shadow this beta version feels not fun and holy priest is also something i could talk about but am mainly focusing on what i feel shadow has become and what it should be.
I am not so pleased of what shadow has become. Now they put all their focus in to one ability and that is mind blast like i understand that its cool and all, but mind blast ain’t an aoe and nor will it ever be. unless blizzard gives us the passive of [Psychic Link].
Am on about the talent three route has fulfilled its purpose in this expack they either need to redo it or fix it because its a drag having to respecc for each specific thing just to even be viable for 2% more damage while other classes can just go down one route and stick with it.
I know i probably get some lover people telling me oh its fun you have choices while i don’t and for these people I will imply these choices ain’t on par what shadow should have in their arsenal blizzard are just bit in vacation mode at the momment due to COvid-19 and all. So I think they will do something to put shadow back again.
I could also go on a rant about how much haste a shadow priest needs whilst the other classes don’t due to raid gear not dropping good stuff in end bosses with haste on it- its all cloth versatilitedty gear- and haste making our dots somewhat tick maybe one more time of what that blizzard does in a semi sec.
I could also go with their covenant Choice making Night Fae 100% better than all other covenants due to an op reset void form CD which ain’t at all too op.
but HEY! that’s just flavour talk. 
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ah the “nf is 100% better” talk again.
thats probably why every top parsing PvE shadow is Necro.
Remove SN and add more dmg for Mind Sear. SN is so useless and annoying!
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Searing Nightmare is annoying and wonky, void form is like a beta version of what a Monks aoe or the spell blizzard of frost mage. but i think blizzard is around a bend not looking at the moment its only flowers and roses.
Its ok that a monk does 57k aoe while im on 8k in a cleave trying to apply dots.
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Frost mage does 2mil 50% their all dps with ice lance don’t worry blizzard will buff them some more in aoe and single target.
Come join us shadow is dead
for your information # the covenant system is a wonky joke system # which should had been a transmog and loot rewards system instead of a majority content making a rift between game play.
Blizzard needs to address this shadow, Because now they feel less thrilling to play by each patch. buffing 2 ability’s that will probably help 0.0001% of their player base for shadow priests is bad class design done by blizzard showing us that they are completely lazy getting around to deal with a still after so many years still standing problem for shadows AOE on 20 adds above.
were do shadow have time to use mind sear anymore
I feel no desire to play my spriest anymore as long as the spec is forced into using SN. Such an annoying ability to use, standing still and channeling before you can press it. It’s pretty crazy that they made the spec completely dependent on a single talent in order to do AOE damage. I’m pretty sure no other DPS spec in the game has no baseline AOE.
paladin retribution divine storm and monks spinning crane kick works better than shadow priests Searing Nightmare. It’s Just clunky fiesta machine. Blizzard seriously need to give shadow some love.
The lvl 30 talent Row for shadow is like a fiesta choice. And Mind sear alone is like no damage compare to what Blizzard, Divine storm and sprinning crane kick is op as heck. insert any other mainstream specc at the current moment and it make shadow feel like a clunky wheel chair spec when aoe big pulls comes to mind.
But its flavor of the month people deciding what the spec should be.
So eh i dont know what to do really
They need to sit down and maybe Rework shadow completely after this expack because this void form fiesta needs to end no one likes it. Maybe bring back Cascade instead of void form.
Their commitment to buffing branch talents such as singel target aoe and a dead ending talent is just telling us Money gets you this far. blizzard have lost the touch with shadow in this expack.
Good class commitment is put always in to Mage Hunters and Monks.
This expack is the worst priest have ever felt like playing even as a healer priest feels awful.
here’s hoping they make next expack shadow better or make something drastic or fun changes if they keep this up priest as a whole is a dead class.
I’m no shadow expert so forgive me if this reply is rubbish, but Psychic Link and Talbadar’s Stratagem, doesn’t that combo give some decent AoE, incl using Misery?
No. it does not. it also reduces your single target.
Its utter minor stuff that don’t help at all. that buff that is. aoe problem still the same.
any fast tldr? is shadow slow like affliction or just lacking in numbers ?
Shadow is affliction if seeds was 4x worse and malefic rapture only hit 1 target.
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shadow is ok. But their play style feels like behind. If you compare to any other class on live shadow feels like no game style at all anymore blizzards imagination has gone dry especially with the talent system.
Void form needs to go the class needs a revamp especially when it comes to aoe damage. Besides that just a slow class when it comes to damage on demand in a big aoe fights. fire mage and balance feral druids or paladin monk warrior hunter just smash it compared to shadow.
Maybe or maybe not i feel as if shadow aoe is stale whilst other classes move freely.