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This is on a Holy Paladin. Look, it’s cool to be able to still use 2handers, but you guys seriously need to consider 2handers giving holies armor, as crusader strike and judgment don’t scale with weapon damage. You lose ~9% armor just so you can basicattack for a bit higher. Or, you know, making those abilities scale with weapon damage, so there is an actual use to it…
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Thanks for that mate. The forum didn’t let me do that though. Is it a perk of being an MVP, or did I miss something?
It requires trust level 3 which can be earned by everyone, MVP’s have it by default.
Also, I thought I wrote in my original reply but must have inadvertently deleted it somehow… as an Ex Holy Paladin, I refused to use a two hander because of the lack of armor. Holy Paladins heal more the close they are to their targets, as a plate wearer my position was usually very near the tanks… that shield gave me more comfort than a 2 hander… so in short… I agree 
Ah, so that’s where my paperweight was…
Personally I’d more prefer to have Judgment and Crusader scale with weapon damage, which would make the “melee healer” fantasy of the paladin stand out a bit more, and would introduce a bit of a twist for Holies in PvP with weapon swapping.
No offense but i think healer shoudn’t have shield at all. It’s a pain in PvP to face a healer with a shield. I don’t even mind to touch them when i see one with shield.
And i prefer in transmog paladin with hammer 
Cut Shamans and Paladins some slack mate, we ain’t got no mobility ><
This I wouldn’t mind. Or just any other 2 hander + tome in general.
Does that include Priest’s Power Word: Shield? I’m just curious… as I don’t PVP at all
They are already calculated with Mail / plate resistant armor. So i will not agree that a pal ret dps must be less resistant than a healer paladin with a shield.
Every Protection specialisation is jealous of priest shield since the shield take the whole character 
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Oh no no, I meant Holies specifically should have this interaction, just as Holies got 30% extra armor from their artifact weapon.
They are already healer, why they need that much resistance ? If they are immortal that gonna make the game boring. Like trying to kill a healer is already hard but if they got shield and so much armor no one would like to play dps since healer with armor and shield will be unbeatable.
Even today the only way to beat shaman and paladin healer is class with bleed and magic damage. For Physical damage we are forced to focus only his mate to win the match.
Physical classes have their toolkit to deal with Holies and Rshams as well. Mortal Strikes, forms of DoT damage, interrupts, and not to mention that it’s quite easy to have near 100% uptime given that both classes lack mobility. Sure, it can be boring that we are training dummies in a way, but that it how it’s balanced.
Arenas also have Dampening, with 2s starting at 20% from the get go. The problem in this field is BGs, where there is no Dampening at all. Because of that, 1-2 healers can absolutely carry any BG.
What toolkit from MM hunter when pal heal can block aim shot and reduce 2,3 second cast time of aim shot to only deal 16k dmg ?
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I guess the problem is that Holy Paladins ideally stand right next to the tank / melee dps, both for their Aura and their mastery.
So they must be able to take some hits or they will die faster than any other healer.
For me it’s just weird that the entire concept of 2hander holy was dropped after Legion, especially since Emissary chests still have a chance to give them, and not to mention that Avenging Crusader still exists.
I was mostly referring to the “no shield at all for healers” argument.
You are right, though. Having the option of using two handed weapons for more damage in addition to sword & board for more survival would be nice.
I can’t think of a single scripting / programming language where this would compile / run