I want decent pvp gear from a vendor, not the random muck that drops when you win (and sometimes lose) a battleground. Bring back resilience too!
I want to be able to do loads of battlegrounds, and then have the ability to earn a piece of gear, like the old days. Better gear for those doing arenas or rated maybe, but still give the ability for those doing random battlegrounds to get that gear too but at a slower rate. I want progression gear wise, for just doing random battlegrounds.
I hate the way PvE mythic/raid raiders can just do the thing they enjoy, and then be able to destroy PvPers with their gear.
PvE and PvP should be separated out again.
Make those who enjoy doing PvP be rewarded with PvP gear.
Also the honour rewards you get are awful too. I hate the crappy mounts they give for PvP rewards. They aren’t aesthetically pleasing or look menacing at all.
I want my honour level to reward GOOD stuff, like access to better gear / mounts.
A crappy horse or toy you get after weeks of grinding? WTF???
number one reason why they scrapped it was because they wanted PvP to be more accessible for PvE players, they thought they could increase PvP participation whit lowering the “bar of entry” by removing any PvP only stat.
2nd reason could be that they though it was too complex of a stat for their playerbase to understand, I mean they still think that for PvP vendors after all.
I agree that they should bring back those stats and vendors along, at this point I doubt they will tho. They also should remove ilvl scaling or any Stat Template “like” system from the game and just give us resilience or the MoP PvP stat system back.
There are two things which are absolutely devastating to the PvP in this game. First is that PvP gear isn’t as good as mythic PvE gear and second that the power creep is absolutely insane. The difference in gear is simply too strong, the powercreep destroys every competitive aspect of the game.
Having rated gear which is good doesn’t help most people, in fact it’s just a snowball mechanic.
Just make PvP gear best in PvP and let people chose the gear stats. And make it easy accessible so gameplay matters and not \played. Make gear a choice in stat priority and preference choices like active/passive and defensive/offensive trincket effects.
Adding a “template” stat to PvE and PvP gear might do something.
The stat would suggest the Ilevel with template stats for that Ilevel when used in the other form of gameplay.
Probably because pvp stats did fine with making a difference between pvp and pve players. But if you were beginning to do pvp on a new character you were just absolute useless unless you were healing. You basicly had to leech to be able to get pvp gear to actually do something against enemy players. and people leeching is not fun for anyone
I’d rather see vendors back with a proper gearing system instead of pvp stats
As a result in bgs we have well geared players who don’t do s**t.
Not following objectives, not helping the team, lacking basic pvp knowledge but refusing to learn (“why should I, I am only here for lols until my M+ or raid starts”).
As a result the quality of bg drops immensely. The players who are primarily pvp stop queueing. PvP turns into Darkmoon carousel - Wee!
If Blizzard wanted to get rid of pvp players and remake bgs as a lol activity for pve players, they really succeeded.
That’s what people have been saying for titanforging in threads where there were gigantic uproars. I’m just telling you that if people start clogging every single forum with a thread about pvp gearing/pvp stat in the end they will get too pressured and succumb like they did with the removal of titanforging.
yes of course, it’s again something they made more “accessable” but ended up completely screwing those people who enjoyed it up until that point, like professions, like the whole Idea behind class design since WoD launch and in many more cases.
also not only did the quality drop because of PvE players it also did because of collectors, because that’s the only reason many people still queue for bg’s, to get the honor rank up for those cosmetic rewards/titles and they are usually even worse than your average mythic plus andy.
the point is there is no reason to do random bg’s at all for a half decent PvP player with a average sized brain.
at least back in the day it was fun for those people to just take a dump on other people because they were bad/had no gear, but nowadays you are protected from these things as a bad player.
I mean that discussion should be kept up all the time. Blizzard cannot believe that PvP is fine now - if casual and elite alike look amused and not in positive way. In past you have had either casual complain, or elite complain, but when you have both camps speak same language, then there must be something to it.