Can we get serious now? WTF is rogue pvp dmg?

That only takes the ladder into concern, means top 5,000 player. That is around 1.6% of the arena player base above 1,000 rating.

But let’s say that number is big enough to give an overview. 5,000 slots, one third are for healer that are outside of the dps competition, so there are remaining 3333 slots for dps. DH got 333 of those slots, means your spec alone has 10% of the dps representation.

We have 12 classes, each one has at least one dps spec, means your class is already over represented. If you split it into specs, at least for the hybrids since ele and enhancer or feral and boomy are completely different, it is getting even more worse for you.

If you try to use statistics, make sure they support your point! Because all it did was to support ours!

As I have said, the statistics you like to refer to support my point even more. Face the truth, you and most other dhs are just bad players and benefited from the broken noob friendly design!

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Says the guy hiding behind an alt.

That makes no sense. You already separated DPS from Healers, why would you bring up specs? Lmao.

You call me bad but you can’t even do basic math.

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Healers don’t compete with DPS, because every team for 3s, at least from a certain rating, doesn’t work without them. No DPS can do this job, just like a healer cannot replace a DPS. Especially since only one healer is allowed for arena.

So since you have to assume that every team consists of one healer and two dps, the division and differentiation is just logical and therefore makes a lot of sense.

The division into specs makes sense from the premise that at least completely different specs should be counted differently.

If you nerf Sub Rogue so all switch to Assa, the game style doesn’t change that much. But if an Owl switches to Feral, everything changes starting with gear and ending with the whole playstyle. Therefore it is reasonable to differentiate at least for some specs, the ones mentioned above.

But as I have said, even if we only take the 12 classes into concern, DH is already over represented. 10% vs 1/12 = 20% too much already only from a class point of view!

I did the basic math, you are just not willing to accept how to read statistics correctly. You are just another Donald and I don’t have enough patience to teach logical thinking to an id**t.

Yes. But you had already removed Healers from the equation, then brought up total specs. This makes no sense.

But as I have said, even if we only take the 12 classes into concern, DH is already over represented.

There are almost twice as many Locks, Mages and Rogues above 2.4K than DHs. So no, they are not.

I did the basic math

Doubt

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Not total specs, dps specs of the same class that are completely different in gearing and play style. For example Ele and Enhancer or Owl and Feral! So instead of 12 dps specs, maybe 14 or 15.

But I also said, that the view alone onto 12 classes already shows that DH is over represented! SO what is your point? Trying to hide that your argument is actually against you?

Beside that this isn’t true you miss the funny part about it. Nobody say they weren’t broken, not even the ones who played those classes!

But you do that about DH which is ridiculous and why nearly everybody in this thread is laughing about you or just :woman_facepalming: every time they read a post from you.

I am still wondering why you doubt what basically everyone, including most top dh player and the ladder, are telling you. Is it ignorance or stupidity? Do you need to tell yourself that DH is a bad class so you can defend your rating without admitting that you are the problem? That the lost games were simply due to your incompetence and that there are no other excuses?

What ever it is, find someone else to discuss about. I have lost any patience and hope for you!

Because the ladder isn’t telling it. There are as many DH players out there as Rogues or Warlocks but far fewer high in the ladder. This proves the class is not overtuned.

What is there to defend about my rating? I pugged to 2.1K in my first season ever. No one should be laughing at that, because I doubt many can replicate this.

When are you going to show us your main? Hiding behind a lvl 11 alt is cute.

I already asked where you got that from. You can’t know how many dhs play PvP in general. All what arenamate statistics are showing you is based on the ladder, which means 1.6% of the arena player base.

Maybe there are only 1,000 dhs but 10,000 rogues which means that your class would be 10 times more broken than the ladder already shows us!

Which is the ultimative proof of how broken your class is. I mean, if even a dumb person like you was able to reach duelist, the class must be very noob friendly to carry him there.

Peace, I am out!

Class census.

If DHs play PvP less than Rogues or Warlocks that just shows the class is not as enjoyable in PvP. Hence the accusation that it is OP makes no sense. Logic is hard.

Yeah no sh–, I used 2400+.

There are not. Class censuses show DH is more played than Rogue.

Show us your main, 1400 hero.

Peace, I am out!

Out of Challenger? I wouldn’t hold my breath.

:rofl:

Beside that you can’t use PvE or general data for PvP, I would love to see that census. All censuses I have seen showed us, that DH was the least played class and that the three named classes had 50% or more general representation which would explain the higher representation in arena but would mean at the same time, that DH was on the same broken level like them!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/276318/distribution-of-world-of-warcraft-characters-by-class/

And I’d love to see your main, so I’ll show you mine if you show me yours.

Also your magic census shows characters created, not characters at max level. You can only have 1 DH per realm so duh, there will be more created of other classes. Bank alts, for one.

Hahhahahaha After 16 years the underdog rises to His best performance

I see, you finally s.t.f.u since you are running out of arguments. Have fun!

Not that they were ever logical or justified!

Not at all, I just don’t see why I should bother when you’re quite obviously :fishing_pole_and_fish: ing

You keep talking about skill and experience, show us yours

And if I do and it turns out that I am a lot more experienced and therefore probably a lot more skilled than you, do you finally agree with what I and most other people say?

I doubt that, I think if you were you wouldn’t chicken out.

You doubt a lot of facts, but that doesn’t mean you should avoid to answer the question!

Nah, I value free speech. Seems you don’t. Shocking.

Then why would I invest another unnecessary second of work in someone like you if there’s not an income for me.

I am really done, need to go to work soon. Have fun in your dreamland that is so far from reality that the distance could not even be given in light years!

Because if you were really that experienced you’d have shown it by now, it’s a trivial matter that takes seconds. What’s embarrassing is that you call people bad but hide behind a dummy account.

I am really done, need to go to work soon

You should sleep more, sleep deprivation is really bad for your brain.