Can we remove Starfall from the game plz?

For me, the damage isn’t the worst. But the pushback is really insane, especially combined with moonfire spam

It is in PvE, and as history has shown, the overwhelmingly massive majority of WoW is doing PvE, and a very very veeeery small section of the playerbase is doing very little PvP.

If you wanted to play balanced PvP ? WoW never delivered on that, nor will it now.

You are also forming very extreme cases to trying and make a point. Boomies dont have high crit, I get a SF crit once in 5-7 casts (Based off crit chance). Also the 1.5 sec needs ZG exalted AND a crit before hand, which is not hard, but not every Boomie has it.

Starfall is strong v 3-4 players, no questions. But also those 4 for the most part have rng procs and pushback resist from talents and gear.

I can make the exact same case and say “Amagawd, I used my Starfall and that mean SP procced a stun, I trinket, and his reel ring fears me, and when I came out he rng stuns me again and then silenced me after! so mean !”

i’ve seen pay to win mobile games with better pvp balance then this.
As some1 who has played mage,lock and boomkin at max lvl ,i can tell you, mage and priest are mostly useless where as boomkin just deletes everything.
If ur only way to balance is to nerf boomkin, remember to nerf also paladins,hunters,rogues,warriors too.

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Ok, your arguments were fine before but now you are telling bs. With the changes to madness bosses in SoD it is extremely easy to get the trinket. It is ok easy to get the rest of the pieces to reach 3set in ZG. So, chances are that most of the moonkins that are doing pvp, have it.

Being actually a passive good damage ability while letting you do other things (the definition of passive) without the need to be lucky is insane but itself. I mean even without starfall moonkins are really good at pvp with their toolkit. They did not need starfall to be viable a really good. With this, they become better that they should. This is the problem.

To be fair starfall one of the worst PVE abilities in the game? You can’t use it on trash because it’s insane range and on bosses it’s some extra dps?

It’s 100% a PVP ability that was already hated when it first came to WOW. As an ability it’s just too easy that’s why it’s hated.

And classic really isn’t designed for AOE, most classes have zero self heal or defensives making AOE that much stronger. Shouldn’t have been put into SOD same as the retadin set bonus