Can you stop crying about premades now?

Stop crying about people crying about premades.

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Back in the day, premades really weren’t that common. Not saying they didn’t exist, as we did host some but you’d most often just queue up with 1-3 of your mates and ran wsg that way. If anything, premades are more anti vanilla.

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Wait the weekly gives rep after revered?

This should have own thread. You are not the only one who observes this. Many people who play both have similar statistics. Maybe there is a bug in the algorithm. Or it is intentional. IDK, maybe for observing some players behavior. Maybe it is a cruel joke hidden by some dev. Maybe they will change it to opposite soon; I mean, premades will get matched mostly with premades and pugs with pugs; maybe they are collecting data. Or it is something bigger … “Will calmy put my tin hat back.”.

That isnt really the real classic though is it.

Back in 2005, premades most defintly werent this prevelent lol.

I would not mind them implementing some system for solo players , maybe they cant get best ranks in solo or something, being part of premade takes lot of time and playing against premades is no fun, premades will have higher chance to get best ranks anyway.
Idk why people on premade side trying so hard to make game worse for large part of the community without even trying to come to some middle ground.

always has been just before it was 200 rep now it’s 1k

Why can’t I complain about the fact that it’s boring to face solo players as a premade?

We premaders WANT to fight other premades! Stop putting us against ungeared, solo players!

It is not just ungeared, most of classes and specs are not even looked for premades.

Penance, metamorphosis, divine storm, shadowstrike-backstabcrit*3,10-30k players per realm… all integral parts of vanilla. This isn’t vanilla.

Why even mention the 1k rep boost? Do you believe for a second that people in the solo queue are farming rep?

Who are you trying to convince that the only purpose for the premades is not to farm solo queuers as fast as possible?
That is the problem, that needs to be fixed.
Will separate ques kill premades? Of course they will because see above.

AB will be the same, that’s 2 phases with all the casual players unable to play.

All the exciting premade vs premade activity would have to be organised beforehand, like the twink bracket and/or when era died.
With the plus side of r14 no longer being super free if they fix AV giving way too much honor still.

nothing will kill premades as you get more rep with premades.
That is if premade is good.
Also they should ban people from WSG for a week, if they afk in any form, I dont care if you are against premade or what, but to many people just afk after first minute.

wash your hair and touch some grass with your discord friends

You actually get more fun in a good pug v pug match than premade v premade. Premade fights are literally over in 45 seconds. You have one fight and whoever loses afks.

Easliy? Never…You have to play too much with when you also have a second life beside the game. It’s ok, like in the past, something special. But really not easy if you don’t throw your RL/Job aside.

Oh yes, that statement is a bit confusing. You still have to play a lot, but I meant in comparison to before, its way easier, having no decay on the ranks makes up for a lot of the farm

Least i feel that R10 will be quite reachable for the casual player, and R13 if you’re dedicated. Without decay the min-max will rush to R14, but won’t get anything until AQ40 releases.

No problem :wink:

Blizzard has talked about new rewards in SoD too, wouldn’t surprise me if we get a set of blue pvp weapons for Rank 10/11.

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Totally false, and it proves that you weren’t there in 2005 or else you’re a damn liar. Premades have always been the exception, not the rule. It was rare to encounter a premade and apart from those opted for the R14 grind, the victory of a premade was not assured, no debuff of -25% damage and totally OP priests.

In short, premades are the prerogative of incompetent PvP players who only seek effortless victory with the most OP classes of the moment and the best equipment in the game.

Vanilla BGs have always been almost exclusive to PUGs.

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We are talking about over 20 years old game here, SoD got some good extra spices but battlegrounds work like they did also 20 years ago.

Going to WSG without premade group was, and it is just a waste of time nowadays too.

I wonder why some guys cry about premades because everyone can easily join in one, or just form own premade group for WSG.

It is just like a forming a group for the dungeon, or raid.

With organized group results are always better, it is so obvious fact.

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