The horde arent the bad guys, sylvanas was
The Horde actively participated, you guys sure did take your time to go “wait a minute”. I mean Blizzard really did you dirty in that aspect. That war council was ooof.
Sure, the whole Horde was just following orders, tell that to the Night elves…
Canonically, Sylvanas wasn’t standing on that shore alone, when she gave the order to burn Teldrassil (An order that was eagerly obeyed, let me guess, “MuH HoRdE oAtH!”, did i guess correctly?), can’t hide behind “Bad warchief” every time…
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What night elves? 
bad writing in bfa doesnt make the entire horde evil
Maybe not (Although their eagerness is a point of debate), but it’s the “We got rid of the warchief, now all responsibility is gone, too”-idea that irks me.
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Is modern germany guilty of ww2?
No, but back then, the “Only following orders”-defense didn’t work out well for many people, and modern Germany is way further from WW2-germany than “Modern Horde” is from the “Sylvanas Horde”
youre a draenei warlock that obviously means your part of the legion and therefore evil right?
Nice attempt at deflecting, ran out of arguments?
I’m a void elf warlock, was never part of the Legion, but I am evil.
90% of the Horde followed Sylvanas throughout the entire war, until she betrayed them above Nazjatar. She then abandoned the rest of her loyalists under Orgrimmar. If you didn’t have the backbone to oppose her yourself, but had to wait for her to betray you, twice, that reflects poorly on you. And don’t say Horde players didn’t want this. Originally, all red players were supposed to follow Saurfang; the whole loyalist story was only added because a HUGE portion of players still wanted to follow Banshee even after everything she done.
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Most horde players don’t. Sylvanas supporters generally like her cos 
Nope making a point. Race doesn’t equal culpability.
There were enough of them to force Blizzard to make changes and arcs they hadn’t planned.
In the BFA and SL era, a huge portion of these players still loudly and blindly believed that Sylvanas was actually a misunderstood heroine with a super clever plan to save the entire universe, and everyone else who didn’t believe in it were ignorant idiots. It lasted until the very end of SL, after that all of them immediately went quiet, but before that they were unbearable on the forums, Twitter, YouTube and other places.
I remember.
That was one of best things in her compared to rest faction leaders. And being bad is just point of view. I didn’t see her ever bad or evil. She did what she did for her own reasons and had her own plans didn’t matter what other horde leaders or warchief think or planned
She wasn’t evil? Are we playing the same game?
Under her rule Forsaken create places like Sludge Field or have human mindslave pets like Theresa. Watch Old Soildier, pause 1:22 and tell me that’s not a face someone who takes pure satisfaction in what it does (and knows perfectly well where those souls will end up).
Yes she was evil and knew where those souls was going so what?
Well i see her being more just focused and not getting satisfaction but sure you can see satisfaction If you wanna see.
Only thing what bothers me on that whole teldrassil scene is that why she just didn’t continue to exodar and lit it too. Road was open to continue there.
I see it that i was there as her soldier doing what ordered to do not asking questions why she ordered dong sonething. She dont have to explain her reasons to me. So to me what i care where those souls end. To mäw or somewhere else my job was just send those
I decided play sylvanas loyalist so i dont see her as evil. But its something you cant understand its easier for you think that because my choise being loyal to death to sylvanas im evil and followed her orders because im just evil
Right but teldrassil was a narrative mistake for a game that has both sides as playable and one side shouldnt be made the villains. You know who was obsessed with sylvanas and pushed this before he was sacked and left the devs to clean up his mess
I wholeheartedly agree, in a game where the baddies always lose (Because their goal is exterminating the good guys), making one side the bad guys is a very bad idea, sure, they get to do the big first strike (Which feels bad for the Alliance), but inevitably must fall (Yet be allowed to still exist, which is another can of worms), because you can’t tell half the players “Your faction is now gone, game over, thanks for playing!”
But the only thing Danuser (or indeed anybody else at Blizz) was worried about was making a massive event to stoke up the tired old faction war again, that the narrative fall-out took 6 years to resolve (In a highly unsatisfactory way, IMO) didn’t occur or matter to anybody at the time.